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Bill: Introducing conscription

Details

Submitted by[?]: Hobrazian Peoples Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: November 2215

Description[?]:

We need to protect our nation. Therefore we need a military capable of doing so. This calls for conscription so that we are ready for future conflicts.

There should be set some time limits of military service, which shall depend on where and what military purpose or civilian national service one attend.


Civilian national service should be between 1 and 2 years depending on where you work.
Military service should be between 1 and 2 years depending on where you are stationed.

Everyone will be a part of the national reserves for 7 years after ending their military service or civilian national service.
For civilian national service personel no one shall be forced to participate in combat, but will be assigned to other military work during war.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date05:37:00, April 11, 2006 CET
From Liberal-Progressive Union
ToDebating the Introducing conscription
MessageI still prefer the wartime only conscription as the only way I can support conscription.

Date15:54:05, April 11, 2006 CET
FromDeltarian Nationalist Party
ToDebating the Introducing conscription
MessageHesitantly support.

Date02:18:31, April 14, 2006 CET
FromNational Imperial Hobrazian Front
ToDebating the Introducing conscription
MessageNo support.

-The Republic has never been at war.
-The Republic has many allies all over the globe. We have help in times of war.
-Conscript soldiers are inadequate when compared to a professional army. A large number of conscripts would not be as effective as a smaller, better-trained force.

Date14:24:53, April 14, 2006 CET
FromDeltarian Nationalist Party
ToDebating the Introducing conscription
MessageCouple of things in the description i did not agree with. Civilian service should be longer than military service as it is unfair that someone risking their life for Hobrazia should serve the same period as someone who is away from all the action. The length of time in the reserves should be much longer as 5 years is not such a long period.

Date19:02:53, April 15, 2006 CET
FromHobrazian Peoples Party
ToDebating the Introducing conscription
MessageRemember that if we accept to have a basic military structure we should accept this, as this law: http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=62124 demands a certain amount of soldiers.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
   

Total Seats: 138

no
     

Total Seats: 165

abstain
 

Total Seats: 97


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