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Bill: P.d.l 7/4736: Conscientious objectors
Details
Submitted by[?]: Blocco della Sinistra
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 4737
Description[?]:
| Blocco della Sinistra parliamentary group |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards civilians who conscientiously object to being required to perform military service (if applicable).
Old value:: Conscientious objectors can be exempted from combatant roles, but not from non-combatant roles.
Current: Conscientious objectors can be exempted, but only on religious grounds.
Proposed: Conscientious objectors are exempted.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:46:38, April 05, 2020 CET | From | Blocco della Sinistra | To | Debating the P.d.l 7/4736: Conscientious objectors |
| Message | Members of the Assembly, members of the Populists, Shall we ask why the Populists, a party that claims to defend the popular will, is opposed to fully allowing the freedom of choice of our citizens to participate in the military? It must also be remembered that the participation in the military structure of people who do not want to be part of it can not only lead, in time of war, to a greater number of human losses, but also to a loss of effectiveness of our own army, which instead of being made up of people with firm convictions, is made up of people who do not believe in the cause? Or is it simply because it is a law proposed by the Left Bloc? Beatrice Nese Spokesperson of the Left Bloc |
| Date | 22:38:18, April 06, 2020 CET | From | Alleanza Popolare | To | Debating the P.d.l 7/4736: Conscientious objectors |
| Message | Members of the Assembly, Mrs Nese, We are hypocrites like you, we believe in freedom of choice, but when it comes to defending our country and that freedom of choice we believe that every citizen has a part to play. The same goes for the Left Bloc, which I hope believe in freedom of choice, but also believes that every citizen has a part to play in the compulsory pension system. But it is also sad to see that the Left Bloc is not willing to support our democracy, our freedom of choice, our civil liberties, etc. It is sad that the Left Bloc is not willing to fight for those ideals and principles which forms our nation. There might actually be a reason why people doesn't believe in the army's cause, and it is because so many leftists who's only wish is to see Istalia divided and fragmented make up the army. We vote against this bill because we believe that every citizen has a part to take to defend their rights and freedom, that's it, nothing more, nothing less, if they don't want to fight for their rights and freedoms why should others fight for those peoples rights and freedoms, if they don't care about their rights and freedoms then they should move to dictatorships where their rights and freedoms can be violated as they wish. But in the end, it truly shows what the Left Bloc cares more about, forcing people in a pension system, a pension system they won't have a use for when is has been destroyed, just because the Left Bloc decided that protecting it from foreign invaders and/or anti-democratic forces wasn't important enough. The Left Bloc shouldn't examine the logical reasoning behind our decision to vote for this, but instead they should start examine theirs. Thank you and may our democracy survive for eternity. Enzo Santucci Spokesman for defense of the Populists |
| Date | 23:00:14, April 06, 2020 CET | From | Blocco della Sinistra | To | Debating the P.d.l 7/4736: Conscientious objectors |
| Message | Members of the Assembly, We see that the Populists can keep a simple debate without insulting others. We have nothing else to add. Beatrice Nese Spokesperson of the Left Bloc |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 363 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 318 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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