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Bill: Great Historical and Secular Act/Nagyszabású Történelmi és Szekularizációs Törvény
Details
Submitted by[?]: Hosian and Direct Democratic Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 4737
Description[?]:
| Cunctis Aequaila Everybody is equal Mindenki egyenlő ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RP-Article 1 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a list about the official Form of States of Endralon before 2000. If this article passed that means that the historical knowledge - about the Form of States - of the Directorial Republic of Endralon is legitim, real and official. Conquest Tribe Era: ? - 650 BCE Heads of State (Pagan Witchers): Péter, the Dreamer Emese, the Conqueror First Principality of Endralonese Conquerors Era: 650 BCE - 400 BCE Heads of State (Princes): Géza, the Tyrant Péter, the Second Levente, the Finisher Béla, the Weak (de facto his wife, Princess Helga) Pronvince Equincum (Pronvince of the Rontin Empire) Era: 400 BCE - 740 CE Heads of State: The Rontin Emperors Holy Principality of Endralonese and Zergonese Era: 740 CE - 1001 CE Heads of State (Princes): István, the Saint István, the Second István, the Third István, the Fourth István, the Fifth (as Prince) Endralon of the Holy Crown Era: 1001 CE - 1520 CE Heads of State (High Kings): The Holy Crown (officially) István the Fifth (as High King) István, the Sixth István, the Seventh István, the Eigtieth László, the Good László, the Second Béla, the Soldiers László, the Third István, the Nintieth Louis, the Great (first from the House of Enjou) Louis, the Second Interregnum of Endralon Era: 1521 CE - 1550 Heads of State (Protector of the Interregnum): Rákóczi Alajos Endralonian Empire Era: 1550 CE - 2000 CE (more than 2000 but it not relevant) Heads of State (Emperor/Empress): András, the Hated (House of Enjou restarator) Sámuel, the Endralonese Péter, the Poet Iván, the Doom (last from the House of Enjou) Rudolf, the Husband (first from the House of Orsós) Rudolf, the Second Mária, the Queen (first woman empress) Anna, the Amazon József, the Red Rudolf, the Third (looser of the War for Kizenian Independence) József, the Second (killed during the Loss of Kispiglon by internationalist metzist volunteers) Free Commune of Kispiglon Era: 16 November, 1924 - 19 November, 1924 There is no Head of State, there is Anarchy Endralonian Empire József, the Orphan (or sometimes József, the Third) Rudolf, the Fourth (last from the House of Orsós) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RP-Article 2 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a writing about our country's cultural background. If this article passed that means that our cultural background is the same with the claims of this writing. #1: The Conquest Tribe is from Makon. We speak a kind of Makonic language. Linguistically we are Makonics. #2: Our country is in Artania. We are the part of this continent in peace and war. So, traditionally we are Artanians. #3: Our largest historical ruling family was a canrillaise one, the House of Enjou. They give us Constitution, National Convention and a lot of other democratic things. So our political culture is similar with the canrillaise political culture. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RP-Article 3 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a list about our country's historical religions. If this article passed that means that's religions are really our historical religions before 2000. 1) Hosiansim State Religion in the Holy Principality of Endralonese and Zergonese Endralon of the Holy Crown Endralonian Empire 2) Paganism State Religion in the Conquest Tribe 3) Religious Freedom State Religion in the Interregnum of Endralon 4) Atheism State Religion in the Free Commune of Kispiglon ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RP-Article 4 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There is a list about historical national symbols of our country. If this article passed that means that our this symbols is really our historical national symbols. Conquest Tribe Symbol: four green lines and four grey lines with alternation Principality of Endralonese Conquerors Symbol: a pelician with a yellow background Province Equincum Symbol: the symbol of the Rontin Empire Holy Principality of Endralonese and Zergonese Symbol: a black cross with yellow background Endralon of the Holy Crown Symbol: (before the Enjous) the Holy Crown with a white background (during the Enjous) the Holy Crown and gold lilies with a dark-blue background Interregnum of Endralon Symbol: a green flag with the "Cum Deo Pro Res Publice Et Patria" text Endralonian Empire Symbol: (during the Enjous) a green and white flag with a blazon in the middle; in the blazon there is gold lilies with dark-blue background (during the House of Orsós) a red-green-white flag with the Holy Crown in the middle Free Commune of Kispiglon Symbol: a pure red flag ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The next articles are part of the legislation. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change State penalties for blasphemy
Old value:: Both private and public blasphemy are considered grave offenses, and are heavily prosecuted.
Current: No state penalties are issued for blasphemy.
Proposed: No state penalties are issued for blasphemy.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Old value:: Foreign missionaries are not permitted to enter the nation.
Current: The government requires foreign missionaries to register with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
Proposed: Foreign missionaries are welcomed and encouraged by the government.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change
Taxation of religious institutions.
Old value:: Recognized religions are not taxed.
Current: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Proposed: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The state's policy concerning religious clothing.
Old value:: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Current: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Proposed: Public officials are not allowed to wear religious symbols while exercising their duties.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: All schools are required to be religious in nature.
Current: Religious schools are allowed, but are strictly regulated. Only recognised religions may set up religious schools.
Proposed: Any religion may set up a school, but they are strictly regulated.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change Remuneration of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The salaries and pensions of ministers of religion shall be borne by the state and regulated by the law.
Current: The salaries and pensions of ministers of religion shall be borne by the state and regulated by the law.
Proposed: Ministers of religion shall receive no remuneration whatsoever.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers are mandatory in schools.
Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Current: There is no official state religion, but the government only allows recognized religions. 'Cults' are persecuted.
Proposed: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:51:47, April 05, 2020 CET | From | Ndrálon People's Party | To | Debating the Great Historical and Secular Act/Nagyszabású Történelmi és Szekularizációs Törvény |
| Message | Mr. Director/Direktor ur We are accepting the historical part. But with the religious part we have some problems: #3: We are not accepting taxation of religious.They are do charitative work. #4: Everyone should wear anything to want. #7: Religious schools must have the right to the teacher led prayers. Respectfully: Kálnay Dávid President of People's Party |
| Date | 20:47:50, April 05, 2020 CET | From |  Hosian and Direct Democratic Party | To | Debating the Great Historical and Secular Act/Nagyszabású Történelmi és Szekularizációs Törvény |
| Message | Mr. Director or Direktor Úr! #3: This is true, but now in this terrible times we need money to restore the country from the post-war hell. After the economic restoration, we will abolishe Article 3. #4: The Supreme Chairman; the Grand Directors; the Directors in the Republican Directorate; the Directors of regional Directorates isn't wear anything what they want. They are elected leaders of the country, they mission is represent the unity of the country, not divided our home with religious conflicts. Usually hosian voters elect a ahmadist candidate or alternately. That fair if an ahmadist Director negotiate in a turban, however the ahmadist Director elected by hosians? #7: We think that this country don't need religious schools. We believe the rights of the children. Furthermore we believe that the child may choice freely her/his identity, her/his religion, her/his principles. Maybe a child (who would become an ahmadist) is go to school in a hosian religious school and she/he never converted her/his true religion. Respectfully: Gál Lajos, Grand Director of Education and Culture |
| Date | 21:09:56, April 05, 2020 CET | From | Ndrálon People's Party | To | Debating the Great Historical and Secular Act/Nagyszabású Történelmi és Szekularizációs Törvény |
| Message | Mr Director/Direktor ur #4 78% of the people are religous so if they wear any reliogus symbol,it represent them. #7 Religious schools are not for converting children. They just invest in the scools. We are not support this bill. Respectfully: Kálnay Dávid, President of People's Party |
| Date | 21:30:16, April 05, 2020 CET | From | Hosian and Direct Democratic Party | To | Debating the Great Historical and Secular Act/Nagyszabású Történelmi és Szekularizációs Törvény |
| Message | Mr. Director or Direktor Úr! #4: The absolute majority of the 78% is wear anything what they want, just a tiny minority, the politicians don't wear some things because political correction. #7: The religious schools is converting children. This is a fact. If they invest a school, they want religious spirit during the education in exchange. But we respect your opinion. Respectfully: Gál Lajos, Grand Director of Education and Culture |
| Date | 21:48:11, April 05, 2020 CET | From | Ndrálon People's Party | To | Debating the Great Historical and Secular Act/Nagyszabású Történelmi és Szekularizációs Törvény |
| Message | Mr Director/Direktor úr #4 Every poitician should wear what they are represent. If they are religious with religious voters i think they should wear any religious symbol. #7 Every parent or child(i mean if they are going to middle school) should choose of schools. If they want to go to the religious school they should. If they want to go to state school they should. Respectfully: Kálnay Dávid, President of People's Party |
| Date | 10:35:15, April 06, 2020 CET | From | Hosian and Direct Democratic Party | To | Debating the Great Historical and Secular Act/Nagyszabású Történelmi és Szekularizációs Törvény |
| Message | Mr. Director or Direktor Úr! #4: The most important rule of the secularization is the separation of the states and the churches; the politicians and the priests; the national flag and the religious symbols... In the regional and national Directorates the Directors is not hosians, ahmadists or atheists - they are endralonese. For this one, two or more hour they cannot be religious. We don't care what they do outside the Directorates. #7: This is not the essence of the act. This is about the liberty of choice of SCHOOLS, and I speak about the liberty of choice of the IDENTITY. I agree with your sentences, but this is irrelevant. Respectfully: Gál Lajos, Grand Director of Education and Culture |
| Date | 11:15:28, April 06, 2020 CET | From | Ndrálon People's Party | To | Debating the Great Historical and Secular Act/Nagyszabású Történelmi és Szekularizációs Törvény |
| Message | Mr Director/Direktor úr #7: This law is not allowing religious people to study in religious schools. This is not liberty. Respectfully: Kálnay Dávid, President of People's Party |
| Date | 21:17:09, April 06, 2020 CET | From | Hosian and Direct Democratic Party | To | Debating the Great Historical and Secular Act/Nagyszabású Történelmi és Szekularizációs Törvény |
| Message | Mr. Director or Direktor Úr! #7: Yes, this is allowing religious people to go religious schools. This is just about the prays. Don't force an ahmadist-leaning adolescent with hosian parents to pray like a hosian in a hosian religious school or alternately. Respectfully: Gál Lajos, Grand Director of Education and Culture |
| Date | 23:13:21, April 06, 2020 CET | From | Ndrálon People's Party | To | Debating the Great Historical and Secular Act/Nagyszabású Történelmi és Szekularizációs Törvény |
| Message | Mr. Director or Direktor Úr! #7 But they should pray like an ahmadist,it could ebe regulated. Not the pray's what we need to ban, we than must need to enforce the schools to allow every religions to pray. Fe. an ahmadist school has 400 ahmadist and 200 hosnian student. Than why not should pray every reiligon how they want? Mr Direktor we can't bann this. Respectfully: Kálnay Dávid, President of People's Party |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 75 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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