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Bill: Absolute Murder of Mega Bills
Details
Submitted by[?]: Independent Capitalist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2214
Description[?]:
| Because no new parties agreed to the old parties way of limiting bills, because they make them despite large bills making the bills a gaurunteed loss, because they trick voters that way into a black and white world of politics, and for various other reasons, this bill will punish the group for the sins of a few and reduce the amount of clauses one can introduce in a bill. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The number of proposals a party can introduce per year (will be handed out as a monthly quota).
Old value:: 20
Current: 10
Proposed: 10
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The maximum proposal quota a party can accumulate.
Old value:: 50
Current: 18
Proposed: 15
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:52:46, April 11, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Absolute Murder of Mega Bills |
| Message | I, unlike them, leave even simply y/n bills in debate. |
| Date | 12:52:28, April 13, 2006 CET | From |  Fair Capitalism Party | To | Debating the Absolute Murder of Mega Bills |
| Message | Hear hear! |
| Date | 13:07:05, April 13, 2006 CET | From | Communist Party of Aloria (DL/APRA) | To | Debating the Absolute Murder of Mega Bills |
| Message | These are uneccessary restrictions on the democratic process and therefore we must oppose. People would not view these bills as black and white if you all took the initiative to provide better educations. |
| Date | 14:15:43, April 13, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Absolute Murder of Mega Bills |
| Message | You are one of the parties I had in mind when I made this bill, actually. You benefit by making bills so large that people have to vote no and make themselves look like fascists or vote yes and make themselves look like communists. It will be harder to fix party visibilities so the people actually know WHO TO VOTE FOR, but this is one for democracy. If new parties cannot agree to the compromise to keep bills somewhat short which was upkept for over 30 years, we cannot have the benefits we once had until they agree to the compromise. |
| Date | 14:16:54, April 13, 2006 CET | From | People's Socialist Front of Aloria | To | Debating the Absolute Murder of Mega Bills |
| Message | I'm afraid I don't support this bill. |
| Date | 14:19:41, April 13, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Absolute Murder of Mega Bills |
| Message | PSFA: Which is more democratic: slowing bills down or having 15 clause bills forcing everyone to one side or another of the political spectrum? |
| Date | 14:21:10, April 13, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Absolute Murder of Mega Bills |
| Message | All I want to do is slow things down and force them into separate bills. All they want to do is to trick the people by making them think that parties are against them based on mega bills... I am not being undemocratic - if they did not listen the first time to "no mega bills" this has to be done. |
| Date | 14:29:13, April 13, 2006 CET | From | People's Socialist Front of Aloria | To | Debating the Absolute Murder of Mega Bills |
| Message | Well I could agree with the seperating into (seperate) bills part, but slowing down seems like a bad option to me. So I support Article 2, but certainly not 1. |
| Date | 01:13:08, April 14, 2006 CET | From | Communist Party of Aloria (DL/APRA) | To | Debating the Absolute Murder of Mega Bills |
| Message | The right to present legislation in front of Parliament should not be so restricted. You present a good case on why smaller bills should be used if abstention wasn't an option, but as it is, we fail to see the validity in the claim that you are forced to either look like fascists or communists. No one is forcing you to vote one way or the other for any bill that is presented before this house. |
| Date | 13:23:18, April 14, 2006 CET | From | Fair Capitalism Party | To | Debating the Absolute Murder of Mega Bills |
| Message | You do realise abstention is worse than yes or no? |
| Date | 17:54:45, April 15, 2006 CET | From | Democratic Liberal Party | To | Debating the Absolute Murder of Mega Bills |
| Message | ICP, you hypocrite. You were always the one bringing in massive bills without any regard for the people. You were also the one that skipped the debate stage for your bills entirely. You have a habit of doing things then dropping them when other people do it and making them out to be just 'noobs' who don't understand how the game works. So drop all the 'holier than thou' rubbish. |
| Date | 21:22:31, April 15, 2006 CET | From | Communist Party of Aloria (DL/APRA) | To | Debating the Absolute Murder of Mega Bills |
| Message | Hypocrisy is typical of the capitalists. |
| Date | 22:35:08, April 15, 2006 CET | From | Democratic Liberal Party | To | Debating the Absolute Murder of Mega Bills |
| Message | No, it's typical of the ICP. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 372 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 188 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 40 |
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