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Bill: IPS - Professional Retirement Age Act // 2219
Details
Submitted by[?]: Imperial Party of Selucian
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2221
Description[?]:
| Knowing our beloved citizens live longer then former generations. And knowing neither a privat not a public pension system is able to pay a 20 years pension or longer. The todays world is seeing our beloved citizens leaving the educational systems with the age of 25 years while former generation started to work in the age of 22 years. Therefore it is reasonable to raise up the retirement age from 65 up to 67 years. §1.1 This law shall effect only those who will enter the work force 4 years after this law passed. All citizens who are in the working force after this law passed will not be effected by it. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The professional retirement age.
Old value:: 65
Current: 65
Proposed: 67
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:18:21, April 25, 2006 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the IPS - Professional Retirement Age Act // 2219 |
| Message | Excuse me? "it will affect only those people below the age of 35"????? Either everyone gets a raise or none, but we will NOT tolerate this discrimination. I promise you riots in college towns, since no Selucian student will like what you do here |
| Date | 03:15:48, April 26, 2006 CET | From | New Passive Militarist Party | To | Debating the IPS - Professional Retirement Age Act // 2219 |
| Message | Perhaps instead of making age 35 the magical cut-off date, we should keep the retirement age at 65 for those who aren't currently in the workforce, and raise it to 67 for those who have yet to enter the workforce. This way, no one who is currently working gets the shaft, and those who haven't started working yet know what to expect. |
| Date | 12:08:37, April 26, 2006 CET | From | Imperial Party of Selucian | To | Debating the IPS - Professional Retirement Age Act // 2219 |
| Message | Indeed, this seems to be a good compromise. We will change it. |
| Date | 13:23:20, April 26, 2006 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the IPS - Professional Retirement Age Act // 2219 |
| Message | This is completely useless. So if I find a job today, I have to work till 65, if I only find one tomorrow I will have to work 2 extra years???? Besides, this wil not change the student protests (like the ones in RL France the past month), since no students are currently working full gtime (or at least you can count them on one hand) |
| Date | 07:50:31, April 27, 2006 CET | From | New Passive Militarist Party | To | Debating the IPS - Professional Retirement Age Act // 2219 |
| Message | There does have to be a cutoff somewhere, and the date of the passage of this bill seems reasonable in that nobody currently working will get the proverbial shaft. BUT, VBS does make a valid point. Perhaps it would be better if we made the law effective for those who join the workforce, say, four years after the date of passage. (OOC: MANY students in my RL country work full time) |
| Date | 11:20:22, May 02, 2006 CET | From | Shalom Lechem v'Eretz Party | To | Debating the IPS - Professional Retirement Age Act // 2219 |
| Message | With the new amendment, you now have our support. |
| Date | 20:45:40, May 02, 2006 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the IPS - Professional Retirement Age Act // 2219 |
| Message | The solution? Make pensions private, so this unsolvable discussion gets useless anyway |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 350 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 203 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 52 |
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