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Bill: Police Weapons
Details
Submitted by[?]: Independent Combat Weapons Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2068
Description[?]:
| We belive that our police force should be armed with more than non-lethal weapons. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The weapons used by police forces.
Old value:: Police officers may only carry non-lethal weapons.
Current: Police officers may only carry non-lethal weapons apart from specially trained firearms units.
Proposed: Police officers carry standard firearms.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:37:03, June 16, 2005 CET | From |   Free Reform Coalition (FRP) | To | Debating the Police Weapons |
| Message | we agree, good to see somebody else with some sense in this place. check out the "Sweeping reform bill" for other ideas. |
| Date | 14:40:08, June 16, 2005 CET | From | Independent Combat Weapons Party | To | Debating the Police Weapons |
| Message | Thanks, we just don't want cops running around with weapons that have very little capabilities. |
| Date | 14:40:43, June 16, 2005 CET | From | Free Reform Coalition (FRP) | To | Debating the Police Weapons |
| Message | agreed, also consider that we allow citizens to carry guns |
| Date | 14:42:54, June 16, 2005 CET | From | Free Reform Coalition (FRP) | To | Debating the Police Weapons |
| Message | actually nevermind about the SR bill, that was withdrawn. but check your private messages. |
| Date | 14:44:03, June 16, 2005 CET | From | Independent Combat Weapons Party | To | Debating the Police Weapons |
| Message | we think that citizens should be aloud to carry limited firearms keeping them hidden. |
| Date | 16:24:02, June 16, 2005 CET | From | LibCom Party | To | Debating the Police Weapons |
| Message | This proposal's already been debated thoroughly and defeated on several occasions, each time by a large majority. |
| Date | 16:26:23, June 16, 2005 CET | From | Independent Combat Weapons Party | To | Debating the Police Weapons |
| Message | We don't understand why anyone would want cops to try to use a tazer on someone whose shooting at them with a real, lethal weapon |
| Date | 16:32:50, June 16, 2005 CET | From | Independent Combat Weapons Party | To | Debating the Police Weapons |
| Message | Can anyone explain that to me?!? |
| Date | 17:13:14, June 16, 2005 CET | From | Free Reform Coalition (FRP) | To | Debating the Police Weapons |
| Message | we went over this in previous bills on this subject ICweapons. The FRP has informed people on the relative uselesness of tazers. What is important and core to this is not that police USE lethal force, but have immediate acces to it if necessary and the detterence that creates in potential crime. There are many neighbourhoods where police will have a good relationship with their local community, regardless of whether they have a gun or not, so we would like to remove that as an issue too. |
| Date | 17:15:49, June 16, 2005 CET | From | Free Reform Coalition (FRP) | To | Debating the Police Weapons |
| Message | and before LevP rants about fascism or whatever it is that they plan on thinking of next. we would like to know: how police officers are supposed to deal with criminals with gun? How are police officers supposed to stop crime if they have no succesful way to stop a criminal? answer the questions, if you can. |
| Date | 17:45:55, June 16, 2005 CET | From | Independent Combat Weapons Party | To | Debating the Police Weapons |
| Message | Exactly! BTW guns aren't always lethal they can be used to incompacitate criminals too.Also guns can be used to shoot out tires of a car or truck if no other resources are avalible. So my question is , can a tazer do that? |
| Date | 18:06:09, June 16, 2005 CET | From | Free Reform Coalition (FRP) | To | Debating the Police Weapons |
| Message | good point ICWeapons, unfortunately you're preaching to the choir and the rest of them won't change their minds unless you can come up with something that is relatively incontrovertable. the problem with this proposition, of course, is that there are arguments for both sides. We even tried a proposition whereby we ban civilian weapons and police weapons simultaneously (at least there would be consistency) but that didn't work either. |
| Date | 19:35:28, June 16, 2005 CET | From | Independent Combat Weapons Party | To | Debating the Police Weapons |
| Message | These people just know what they want. |
| Date | 19:52:23, June 16, 2005 CET | From | Protectorate Party | To | Debating the Police Weapons |
| Message | Actually the cross uses of weapons listed by the ICWPC was not considered by the PP, we will reflect on that for a bit. |
| Date | 01:55:11, June 17, 2005 CET | From | Protectorate Party | To | Debating the Police Weapons |
| Message | We will vote on this later once we have determined what are current laws are on gun control. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 16 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 61 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 23 |
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