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Bill: All advertising is permitted.
Details
Submitted by[?]: Growth and Prosperity Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2226
Description[?]:
| We feel censoring advertising and media, both forms of free speech is immoral and move to change it to allow self-regulation by an industrial consortium. This promotes the rights of individuals to choose what they watch and will also lead to a better informed consumer and economic growth. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy on advertising
Old value:: Only advertising that meets certain set standards is permitted.
Current: All advertising is permitted.
Proposed: All advertising is permitted.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 02:33:30, May 06, 2006 CET | From |  Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the All advertising is permitted. |
| Message | I support this. |
| Date | 02:45:51, May 06, 2006 CET | From | Green Manalishi Party | To | Debating the All advertising is permitted. |
| Message | The GMP joins the FCP in supporting this proposal and is glad to see a refreshing bill of this nature put forward. |
| Date | 14:18:42, May 06, 2006 CET | From | Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta | To | Debating the All advertising is permitted. |
| Message | We are deeply opposed. Advertising should conform to standards, those which protect the rights and sensibilities of our citizens. Offensive advertising, subliminal advertising, advertising which promotes illegal or regulated products (outside of acceptable times, i.e. promoting smoking to children) should not be allowed. To create a situation in which there is a free for all on advertising would be disastrous for Jelbania and her citizens. Furthermore, the /amount/ of advertising which is allowed should be regulated. For example, a 30 minute programme should be punctuated by no more than 5 minutes of advertising time, any more and the quality of television is harmed - as there is more advertising than programming time. It is naive to assume that corporations will willingly regulate their own advertising. So far as they are concerned, the more, the more shocking and the bigger the better. This is not good for our citizens. |
| Date | 15:59:47, May 06, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the All advertising is permitted. |
| Message | I can see regulating illegal product advertisements, but TIME??? If you do not like heavy comercials, call the the station. That is you problem, not ours. Furthermore, it probably IS naive to assume they will regulate themselves. However, they have to advertise through something or other. Pay for 30 seconds of airtime, pay for a billboard(who does that money go to?), pay for a newspaper add, etc. THEY might not regulate themselves, but I am guessing newspapers and tv stations will. |
| Date | 17:27:41, May 06, 2006 CET | From | Green Manalishi Party | To | Debating the All advertising is permitted. |
| Message | We accept the DLP points on subliminal advertising and the amount of advertising. Also, the FCP response that - they "guess" someone will do the regulating - has exposed their tendency to pass the buck and to make vague, ill-conceived arguments. |
| Date | 18:31:29, May 06, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the All advertising is permitted. |
| Message | What about YOU??? With the gun law bill, your making these guesses all over the place! |
| Date | 18:36:31, May 06, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the All advertising is permitted. |
| Message | An example, if DLP permits it, is the Super Bowl. Durind the Super Bowl (kind of an American World Cup), there have always been racy, sexual beer commercials. You know what happened this year? Even though these commercials were quite legal, the tv station hosting the Super Bowl decided that they did not want these racy, sexual commercials and banned them from the game. My argument was not "vague" or "ill-conceived;" my arguments were quite real. And do not even say "but the real world does not exist;" it does exist, period. |
| Date | 18:52:29, May 06, 2006 CET | From | Green Manalishi Party | To | Debating the All advertising is permitted. |
| Message | OOC: we feel that the FCP has trouble understanding abstract concepts. IC: guess v. guessed, guess·ing, guess·es v. tr. To predict (a result or an event) without sufficient information. To assume, presume, or assert (a fact) without sufficient information. (The GMP would like to thank dictionary.com for their valuable insight) |
| Date | 20:44:22, May 06, 2006 CET | From | Growth and Prosperity Party | To | Debating the All advertising is permitted. |
| Message | There are PLENTY of examples of self-regulation working fine in the media industry. Look at the MPAA and movie ratings, RIAA and explicit labels, and finally the cable industry; these are all done through industry consortiums and work pretty well. Unlike broadcast television, cable content is not regulated by the FCC. Yet the networks continue to regulate their content (for example: Comedy Central's decision to not broadcast Mohammed on South Park) because it benefits them to do so. The problem with government regulation of advertisment (and media as a whole) is that the entire process becomes incredibly politicized. Furthermore, content as a whole suffers. If we follow the perverse logic of the DLP, advertisments that were "government regulated", i.e. network television would be a bastion of good practices, while cable television would be littered with "brainwashing" advertisements. Instead what you see is that the cable stations don't show inappropriate ads until late in the night, while network tv airs advertisements for erertile dysfunction 24 / 7. |
| Date | 22:51:06, May 06, 2006 CET | From | Green Manalishi Party | To | Debating the All advertising is permitted. |
| Message | Why are we putting bills up for voting so quickly? it is not going to pass before the election anyway and debate clearly hasn't been exhausted on the issue. |
| Date | 23:24:07, May 06, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the All advertising is permitted. |
| Message | Well, it seems YOU have been gessing, GMP, not me. |
| Date | 01:35:44, May 07, 2006 CET | From | Green Manalishi Party | To | Debating the All advertising is permitted. |
| Message | did the FCP read the definition? there is "sufficient information" to support all of our assertions in the guns bill. |
| Date | 03:39:17, May 07, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the All advertising is permitted. |
| Message | Is there? Where? You just said that it would reduce crime, but with no proof at all. Actually, my proof directly opposes your guesses. |
| Date | 04:05:38, May 07, 2006 CET | From | Green Manalishi Party | To | Debating the All advertising is permitted. |
| Message | Well there is proof, and we could follow the FCP lead and print out big essays and statistics on the subject but will refrain from doing so because this "debate" is going nowhere. |
| Date | 05:44:11, May 07, 2006 CET | From | Centre Démocratique | To | Debating the All advertising is permitted. |
| Message | We just had this debate and we are still against this effort. Children should not be exposed to certain advertising and government can ensure that. |
| Date | 14:41:08, May 07, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the All advertising is permitted. |
| Message | Why do the people not ensure that? |
| Date | 14:41:10, May 07, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the All advertising is permitted. |
| Message | Why do the people not ensure that? |
| Date | 03:20:21, May 08, 2006 CET | From | Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta | To | Debating the All advertising is permitted. |
| Message | Because people can't do much about billboards or what is shown on T.V., unless they turn it off all the time. |
| Date | 05:12:46, May 08, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the All advertising is permitted. |
| Message | "Because people can't do much about billboards or what is shown on T.V., unless they turn it off all the time." They could call the tv station, not what that station, call whoever advertises that billboard. People can do more than you think. Like I said before, the beer ads during the Super Bowl were canceled. Another super bowl thing: some singer's breast was exposed and many, many people expressed outrage over that(many kids watch the game). Why are comercials not 10 minutes long? The people do not like that. People have much power, much more than you portray, DLP. |
| Date | 17:42:48, May 08, 2006 CET | From | Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta | To | Debating the All advertising is permitted. |
| Message | Firstly, unless parents CONSTANTLY monitor their children's viewing, and decide whether all the advertisements shown during their children's viewing time is acceptable, that argument is not applicable. This is impractical, and people do not have the time to do it. Furthermore, it is the nature of 'subliminal' advertising that a person cannot tell when it is occuring. How could people complain about something they can't even notice? Thirdly, if /all/ television channels had 10 minute advertising interludes, and this provided a great deal of profit, NO amount of complaining is going to stop them. When they regulate themselves, they aren't going to consider their audience, only their profits. Also, often only the most vocal citizens actually complain. The majority are generally apathetic, as they consider it will make no difference or simply cannot be bothered. |
| Date | 04:14:40, May 09, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the All advertising is permitted. |
| Message | "How could people complain about something they can't even notice?" If they do not notice it, why does it make a difference. "Thirdly, if /all/ television channels had 10 minute..." That is the nature of COMPETITION. They will not ALL do that. Why? The people find it unacceptable. And if the people REALLY disagree, they can start their OWN station. That is the nature of FREE ENTERPRISE. "Firstly, unless parents CONSTANTLY monitor their children's viewing, and decide whether all the advertisements shown during their children's viewing time is acceptable, that argument is not applicable." If their parents really cared, they would not sit their kids in front of the tv all day. That is the nature of Parenthood. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 271 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 115 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 239 |
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