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Bill: Furthering Democracy
Details
Submitted by[?]: Libertarian Socialist Party (RDL)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2070
Description[?]:
| first steps to making Rildanor a more democratic nation |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The length of a legislative and executive term, in months. Should be between 24 and 72.
Old value:: 72
Current: 72
Proposed: 24
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:15:09, June 18, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian Socialist Party (RDL) | To | Debating the Furthering Democracy |
| Message | Shorter terms will give the people more chances to hold the goverment to account |
| Date | 01:54:33, June 18, 2005 CET | From | Christian Fundamentalist Party | To | Debating the Furthering Democracy |
| Message | Shorter terms mean more campaigning, which means a greater waste of money and time instead of politicians focusing on work. |
| Date | 02:07:57, June 18, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian Socialist Party (RDL) | To | Debating the Furthering Democracy |
| Message | Long terms mean unpopular governments can stay in power for a long period |
| Date | 02:07:58, June 18, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian Socialist Party (RDL) | To | Debating the Furthering Democracy |
| Message | Long terms mean unpopular governments can stay in power for a long period |
| Date | 10:59:20, June 18, 2005 CET | From | Christian Fundamentalist Party | To | Debating the Furthering Democracy |
| Message | Using you logic: you want government that do nothing and please the people against unpopular government that make reforms and work in the interest of the country. If a government is unpopular when elections will come the people will not vote for the parties in it. It is a simple as that. |
| Date | 14:37:11, June 18, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian Socialist Party (RDL) | To | Debating the Furthering Democracy |
| Message | 72 months just seems far too long a period pehaps we could compromise? |
| Date | 21:56:13, June 18, 2005 CET | From | Christian Fundamentalist Party | To | Debating the Furthering Democracy |
| Message | There is a problem Christians’ Guardians and Blue Revolution cannot log on at the moment and to change the constitution you need 50 votes which is hard to get without them. Also the fact they can’t log is the reason we have the new ridiculous laws like the death penalty and torture. But we will change it soon. We do congratulate you for your willingness to compromise. All parties that came and went though Rildanor were all fanatical socialist or libertarian. I am sure that at least on this matter a compromise will be reached. |
| Date | 23:36:32, June 19, 2005 CET | From | Sociofeudalist Party | To | Debating the Furthering Democracy |
| Message | Longer terms mean greater stability, and functionality. I might agree about 72 being a rather long term, but 24 is certainly too short; after all, the People voted thus and they can't change their mind so quickly. |
| Date | 12:18:13, June 20, 2005 CET | From | Worker's Alliance | To | Debating the Furthering Democracy |
| Message | We agree with the Libertarian Socialist Party, welcome to the reformist movement. |
| Date | 16:09:09, June 20, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian Socialist Party (RDL) | To | Debating the Furthering Democracy |
| Message | Decided to go to vote as I have support of workers alliance |
| Date | 16:37:18, June 20, 2005 CET | From | Christian Fundamentalist Party | To | Debating the Furthering Democracy |
| Message | you need 66% of the votes. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 27 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 46 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 2 |
| Random fact: It is forbidden to impersonate a player or Moderator. |
| Random quote: "An independent is someone who wants to take the politics out of politics." - Adlai Stevenson |