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Bill: Post Office Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Green Manalishi Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2228
Description[?]:
We open this up to honest discussion. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the post office
Old value:: There is a nationalised post office. Private post office agencies are allowed to exist, and the services provided by them are not regulated.
Current: There is a nationalised post office. Private post office agencies are allowed to exist, and the services provided by them are not regulated.
Proposed: There is a nationalised post office agency in the nation. Private ones are banned.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 19:38:34, May 12, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the Post Office Bill |
Message | What is your problem??? |
Date | 19:47:21, May 12, 2006 CET | From | Green Manalishi Party | To | Debating the Post Office Bill |
Message | ooc: mwahahaha ic: Could you formulate that into either an argument or a proper question FCP? we're not quite sure where the Conservatives are coming from? |
Date | 21:50:49, May 12, 2006 CET | From | Growth and Prosperity Party | To | Debating the Post Office Bill |
Message | (ooc) the problem he's referring to is the fact that your "bills" consist of nothing more than your statement "We open this up to honest discussion" with a proposal to change a law, but no facts, reasoning, or even propaganda to convince others why the bill should be even debated. |
Date | 22:04:25, May 12, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the Post Office Bill |
Message | Actually, the problem is that he basiclly wants centralized control over evrything and hates private business. |
Date | 22:18:07, May 12, 2006 CET | From | Green Manalishi Party | To | Debating the Post Office Bill |
Message | 'potato, potato, tomato, tomato let's call the whole thing off' the gmp does not see this as a "problem", we see it as an ideology gpp: as far as we're aware: a) what is wrong with opening something up for discussion? b) we've only actually made the statement that you allude to, in isolation, maybe 2/3 times out of the 20 odd bills we've proposed over the past 7 years |
Date | 02:43:05, May 13, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the Post Office Bill |
Message | And that idealogy is a problem. It limits freedom and beefs up the government. |
Date | 03:01:26, May 13, 2006 CET | From | Green Manalishi Party | To | Debating the Post Office Bill |
Message | when equality exists there will be no state. |
Date | 03:35:24, May 14, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the Post Office Bill |
Message | So, instead of making state as little as possible, you make it huge? |
Date | 04:09:55, May 14, 2006 CET | From | Green Manalishi Party | To | Debating the Post Office Bill |
Message | when equality exists there will be no state. the FCP obviously hasn't thought the statement through, we advise them to try again. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||
yes | Total Seats: 121 | |||
no |
Total Seats: 386 | |||
abstain |
Total Seats: 118 |
Random fact: The people in your nation don't like inactive parties. When you often abstain from voting for a bill, they will dislike your party and your visibility to the electorate will decrease significantly. Low visibility will means you are likely to lose seats. So keep in mind: voting Yes or No is always better than Abstaining. |
Random quote: "The 20th century has been characterised by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power; and the growth of corporate propaganda against democracy." - Alex Carey |