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Bill: Pension System Act

Details

Submitted by^[?]: Green Manalishi Party

Status^[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: April 2228

Description^[?]:

Again, we open this up to debate.

Proposals

Article 1

Proposal^[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system.

Old value:: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.

Current: There is a compulsory private pension system.

Proposed: The state operates a compulsory, public pension system.

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date	16:35:45, May 12, 2006 CET
From	Growth and Prosperity Party
To	Debating the Pension System Act
Message	Why in the world would you want to ban private pensions?

Date	17:17:25, May 12, 2006 CET
From	Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta
To	Debating the Pension System Act
Message	Although we prefer public ownership, the GPP is right. This makes no sense.

Date	18:56:56, May 12, 2006 CET
From	Green Manalishi Party
To	Debating the Pension System Act
Message	A balancing of the scales.

Date	19:36:51, May 12, 2006 CET
From	Free Conservative Party
To	Debating the Pension System Act
Message	Looking at GMP's new bills, it seems they want to abolish freedom itself.

Date	19:49:08, May 12, 2006 CET
From	Green Manalishi Party
To	Debating the Pension System Act
Message	We believe that FCP's notions on freedom work somewhere along the same lines as "we're all equal, but some are just more equal than others".

Date	22:12:20, May 12, 2006 CET
From	Free Conservative Party
To	Debating the Pension System Act
Message	So, taking away the right to a pension is more free than not?????

Date	22:59:26, May 12, 2006 CET
From	Green Manalishi Party
To	Debating the Pension System Act
Message	FCP: you'll note that everyone in our proposed system has "the right to a pension".

Date	02:41:23, May 13, 2006 CET
From	Free Conservative Party
To	Debating the Pension System Act
Message	And the current system gives amount "X." If an employer wants to, they can add "Y." You are taking "Y" out and only giving "X." All this does is lower pensions.

Date	03:03:08, May 13, 2006 CET
From	Green Manalishi Party
To	Debating the Pension System Act
Message	all this does is lower pensions? where did the FCP jump to that conclusion from? As for the "Y" factor, it has already been added through numerous inherent flaws in our social equilibrium.

Date	15:44:27, May 13, 2006 CET
From	Free Conservative Party
To	Debating the Pension System Act
Message	OK, so you wish to increase public pensions. Your going to get the money by taxing business, aren't you?

Date	20:42:08, May 13, 2006 CET
From	Green Manalishi Party
To	Debating the Pension System Act
Message	thanks for the suggestion!

Date	15:52:11, May 15, 2006 CET
From	Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta
To	Debating the Pension System Act
Message	The DLP has never before said this, but we agree with the Conservatives! People should be allowed to take out their own pension as well as public pensions, it is just like a savings account, a personal matter.

Date	19:26:53, May 16, 2006 CET
From	Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta
To	Debating the Pension System Act
Message	Err, after a great deal of research, we've changed our minds. So long as the public pensions are big enough.

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Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta (121)
Green Manalishi Party (0)

Total Seats: 121

Total Seats: 386

abstain

Total Seats: 118

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