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Bill: Gambling Legalisation
Details
Submitted by[?]: Liberal Democrat Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2068
Description[?]:
| It is ridiculous that his socialist nanny state is telling our people how to spend their money. Gambling is a choice, we cant call ourself a democracy whilst we deny people choices! |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The right to gamble.
Old value:: Gambling is illegal.
Current: Gambling is legal across the nation, no regulation whatsoever.
Proposed: The legality of gambling is a matter of local governments.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 12:52:16, June 18, 2005 CET | From |  Communist Party of Endralon | To | Debating the Gambling Legalisation |
| Message | Killing people is also a choice. So why don't we legalise murder? Oh yes, because not every freedom of choice is good. Your argument is a fallacy. |
| Date | 12:55:52, June 18, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Democrat Party | To | Debating the Gambling Legalisation |
| Message | Fine, I mean a choice that has no adverse effects upon other citizens. Gambling should be a personal matter, it should be the persons decision whether or not to spend their money in this way. |
| Date | 13:08:17, June 18, 2005 CET | From | Communist Party of Endralon | To | Debating the Gambling Legalisation |
| Message | Yes it DOES have adverse effects upon other citizens. When someone opens a casino, his action has plenty of adverse effects over the community where that casino has been opened. It lures many people into the destructive and addictive habit of gambling, which will cause them to lose their savings - perhaps their entire lives' savings - and may push them to excessive drinking or even criminal activities (it is very common for people who have accumulated large gambling debts to engage in crime in order to pay off those debts). Also, gambling establishments are guilty of using FALSE and misleading advertising - they lie through their teeth in order to convince potential customers that they have a large chance of winning, when if fact they have a large chance of LOSING. But, most importantly, GAMBLING ALLOWS PEOPLE TO WIN OR LOSE MONEY THROUGH NO MERIT OR FAULT OF THEIR OWN. This goes directly against our work ethic and directly against the meritocratic principle that you need to WORK in order to earn money, and that you won't lose money if you haven't done anything wrong. |
| Date | 13:18:30, June 18, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Democrat Party | To | Debating the Gambling Legalisation |
| Message | Your main argument is about being irresponsible with your money. That can happen in any walk of life and is just a part of life. I fail to see why the majority of gamblers who can control their habit are being punished because a few people develop gambling problems. And I have put it for local governments so communitys can weigh up the pros and cons before allowing gambling in their area. I think illegal gambling is a lot more false, misleading and leads to a hell of a lot of crime. Lets not push it underground, if its legal it can be regulated so the casinos dont lie to people. It is not the governments place to be preaching about ethics or morals either. The government is not here to patronise good, hard working Endralonians who wish to put E$1 on the lotto! |
| Date | 13:25:54, June 18, 2005 CET | From | Communist Party of Endralon | To | Debating the Gambling Legalisation |
| Message | No, my main argument is the one I've emphasized: GAMBLING ALLOWS PEOPLE TO WIN OR LOSE MONEY THROUGH NO MERIT OR FAULT OF THEIR OWN. By the way, it's a bit difficult to have an entire underground casino, don't you think? Underground gambling is always MUCH smaller than legal gambling. When was the last time you saw an illegal version of Las Vegas? And yes, it IS the government's place to be preaching about ethics and morals. That's what HUMAN RIGHTS are - ethical statements! The government outlaws murder and rape because murder and rape are EVIL. The government IS here to PROTECT good, hard working Endralonians from lying bastards and con men who want to fool them into losing their hard earned money. |
| Date | 14:48:31, June 18, 2005 CET | From | Delete This Party!!! | To | Debating the Gambling Legalisation |
| Message | The Conservative Party is in favour of this bill as we believe in economic and recreational freedom. Most people dont gamble to 'get rich' directly, it is a form of entertainment which is made more interesting by the chance of getting rich. Therefore, we think it is not a question of protecting people from being exploited, it is a question of allowing people the freedom to make their own decisions. |
| Date | 23:14:18, June 18, 2005 CET | From | Abandoned NFC Headquarters | To | Debating the Gambling Legalisation |
| Message | Yes for reasons previously stated. OOC: And also because I'm too tired from the HALO party to think up reasons. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 372 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 285 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 2 |
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| Random quote: "Men's natures are alike, it is their habits that carry them far apart." - Confucius |