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Bill: An End To Torture(Retry)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Zuman Independence Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2070
Description[?]:
| With the new political landscape we belive it is possible to end torture. Unless offcourse our last attempt was supported by flip floppers. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The use of torture for obtaining information.
Old value:: Suspects can only be tortured under grave emergencies where the information is vital.
Current: Torture is never allowed.
Proposed: Torture is never allowed.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:53:18, June 19, 2005 CET | From | Deadly Buzz Party | To | Debating the An End To Torture(Retry) |
| Message | Still no. |
| Date | 16:56:37, June 19, 2005 CET | From | Social-Liberty Party | To | Debating the An End To Torture(Retry) |
| Message | No...we like the current policy...we could only support a reiteration of that. |
| Date | 09:22:31, June 20, 2005 CET | From | Restoration Party | To | Debating the An End To Torture(Retry) |
| Message | There you go again with your crazy agenda. I say we hold early elections to get rid of this disgrace of a party! |
| Date | 18:45:19, June 20, 2005 CET | From | Zuman Independence Party | To | Debating the An End To Torture(Retry) |
| Message | I fart in your royal face RP. |
| Date | 19:18:39, June 20, 2005 CET | From | Alliance for Natural Law | To | Debating the An End To Torture(Retry) |
| Message | Once again (we think at least) we vote yes. Torture is a violation of the most fundemental of human rights. We would, however support early elections. We don't think that it would get rid of TCP, we just like lots of elections. |
| Date | 00:34:39, June 21, 2005 CET | From | Restoration Party | To | Debating the An End To Torture(Retry) |
| Message | parties that have execution as part of their platform advocating an end to torture...when will it end... |
| Date | 11:06:31, June 21, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Labor Party | To | Debating the An End To Torture(Retry) |
| Message | Information obtained under torture is tainted by unreliability. What I ask is: what is the meaning of 'grave emergencies'? There is too much room for abuse of the process. |
| Date | 11:58:30, June 21, 2005 CET | From | Zuman Independence Party | To | Debating the An End To Torture(Retry) |
| Message | Execution and torture is two very different things, you silly royalist. |
| Date | 12:15:43, June 21, 2005 CET | From | Red and Green Bloc | To | Debating the An End To Torture(Retry) |
| Message | Both Torture and the death penalty are an affront to humanity and freedom |
| Date | 15:42:34, June 21, 2005 CET | From | Restoration Party | To | Debating the An End To Torture(Retry) |
| Message | Less secure, less free, less economically developed...good luck selling your twisted agenda to the sensible people of Arglon this year!! |
| Date | 20:29:20, June 21, 2005 CET | From | Zuman Independence Party | To | Debating the An End To Torture(Retry) |
| Message | Proceeding to vote again. |
| Date | 04:03:43, June 22, 2005 CET | From | Alliance for Natural Law | To | Debating the An End To Torture(Retry) |
| Message | /me is tempted to make some comment about strange bedfellows. Happens on a lot of bills, but this one's particularly amusing, at least to me. |
| Date | 12:26:18, June 22, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Labor Party | To | Debating the An End To Torture(Retry) |
| Message | yes |
| Date | 18:07:48, June 22, 2005 CET | From | Restoration Party | To | Debating the An End To Torture(Retry) |
| Message | Scary! |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 90 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 60 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 25 |
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