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Bill: Red Manifesto - Military
Details
Submitted by[?]: National Communist Movement
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2232
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning biological and chemical weaponry.
Old value:: The nation shall never develop, purchase or store biological or chemical weaponry.
Current: The nation reserves the right to develop, construct and store biological and chemical weapons.
Proposed: The nation shall never purchase, produce, or store biological or chemical weaponry, for military purposes. Research and development of the technology is permitted.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of chemical and biological weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weaponry in warfare.
Current: The nation reserves the right to use chemical or biological weapons in warfare for any reason.
Proposed: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The nation's defence industry.
Old value:: Defence industries are privately owned and not subsidised.
Current: The state owns national defence industries but these exist alongside privately owned defence industries.
Proposed: The state owns all defence industries.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on the separation of the police and the military.
Old value:: A civilian police force is in place and the military is not allowed to play any part in it.
Current: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Proposed: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 11:41:00, May 23, 2006 CET | From | AM Popular Liberation | To | Debating the Red Manifesto - Military |
| Message | We agree with all but article three. However, we are willing to overlook that article and vote for the rest. Article 3 can always be changed eventually. |
| Date | 11:43:53, May 23, 2006 CET | From | National Communist Movement | To | Debating the Red Manifesto - Military |
| Message | We thank the PL for there understanding. Do you support the measure that is currently in place regarding article 3? |
| Date | 11:46:32, May 23, 2006 CET | From | AM Popular Liberation | To | Debating the Red Manifesto - Military |
| Message | No. We prefer a more flexible system in which the state owns defence industries in tandem with private ones. These private contractors however would be regulated to ensure that their influence does not generate a dangerous military-industrial complex that would threaten our Republic. |
| Date | 12:00:52, May 23, 2006 CET | From | National Communist Movement | To | Debating the Red Manifesto - Military |
| Message | If the bill was doomed to fail due to that article, we could concede, but not abolish it, as we feel the current measure is too right wing. |
| Date | 12:04:29, May 23, 2006 CET | From | AM Popular Liberation | To | Debating the Red Manifesto - Military |
| Message | Unfortunately. In this current legislative term, this bill is doomed to fail as the three parties in the Conclave are libertarian-esque in their views. |
| Date | 12:19:21, May 23, 2006 CET | From | National Communist Movement | To | Debating the Red Manifesto - Military |
| Message | Oh well. Right now our priorities are focussed around getting visibility. Once we have seats we can look at passing bills more. For now, that matters less. Due to the upcoming election, this goes straight to vote in an attempt to gain visibility before they occur. |
| Date | 15:05:30, May 23, 2006 CET | From | National Communist Movement | To | Debating the Red Manifesto - Military |
| Message | Despite all current 'yes' parties having a collective number of 0 seats, it's good to see support from them. |
| Date | 17:24:58, May 23, 2006 CET | From | Federalists Party | To | Debating the Red Manifesto - Military |
| Message | While we support article 1 and 2, we cannot support 3 and 4. We are forced to vote no. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 458 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 42 |
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