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Bill: Republic Act, 2234

Details

Submitted by[?]: Aldurian Libertarian Socialist Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: February 2238

Description[?]:

Considering that

- The Monarchy is more a de jure status than a real institution that is under regency since the restauration, the Aldurian Monarchy lignée being unable to assume its role.
- The Monarchy is fundamentally an unegalitarian institution.
- The Monarchy has no historical roots in Alduria and was imposed in the sole purpose of hindering the powerfull symbol of popular sovereignty.

The Aldurian Monarchy is thereafter dismissed and the Republic of Alduria established.

Article 1
Section 1
The formal name of the coutry is Alduria.

Section 2
Alduria is a republic. Its Government is organized with the following principle: from the People, for the People, by the People.

Article 2
The executive power is vested in the President. The President is elected by a two round runoff election system.

Article 3
The legislative power is vested in the House of Delegates. The delegates are elected using a proporsional system.

Article 4
The judiciary power is vested in the Supreme Court. Juges are selected by the House of Delegates among the candidates presented by the Barreau of Alduria. The President has a veto over the nominations.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date13:38:38, May 28, 2006 CET
FromAldurian Libertarian Socialist Party
ToDebating the Republic Act, 2234
Message(OOC: I should have labeled this bill 'Birgitta Nagako on the verve of death' to kid JP - )

Date13:40:08, May 28, 2006 CET
FromAldurian Libertarian Socialist Party
ToDebating the Republic Act, 2234
MessageWe try to reach a concensus. The new republic will feature a strong separation of powers.

Date13:51:37, May 28, 2006 CET
FromAldurian Republican League
ToDebating the Republic Act, 2234
MessageWe agree with this proposal

Date15:46:11, May 28, 2006 CET
FromBendiri Bandidos
ToDebating the Republic Act, 2234
MessageWe dislike the motto and we are against the President running the House of Delegates (or Tequila Lounge) as it's more popularly known. We share your loathing of the current meaningless monarchy but would prefer to see the President's powers separated from the Head of Government's.

Date16:25:53, May 28, 2006 CET
FromRadical-Revolutionary Party
ToDebating the Republic Act, 2234
MessageWe agree with the Bendiri Bandidos on the matter of the Head of State, that they should have separate powers from the Head of Government.

Date17:46:40, May 28, 2006 CET
FromAldurian Libertarian Socialist Party
ToDebating the Republic Act, 2234
Message>We share your loathing of the current meaningless monarchy but would prefer to see the President's powers separated from the Head of Government's.

We think that a strong separation of power, only feasable with an executive separately elected, is a good thing. However, if there is a concensus, we would approve a separate HoS and HoG.

For the motto, I think this one was the old one, but we are open to any suggestion. Its just that we were not eager to let the current usurpative one.

Date17:48:45, May 28, 2006 CET
FromAldurian Libertarian Socialist Party
ToDebating the Republic Act, 2234
MessageI don't know if we can have a 2/3 supermajority before the elections, but I'd ask the party to say wich option they would appouve.

Date23:20:03, May 28, 2006 CET
FromRadical-Revolutionary Party
ToDebating the Republic Act, 2234
MessageWe would have to vote Nay, because of the issues of seperation of powers. It would probably be best to revisit this issue after the elections, though.

Date00:22:31, May 29, 2006 CET
FromAldurian Labor Party
ToDebating the Republic Act, 2234
Messagei'm a no

Date07:31:08, May 29, 2006 CET
FromAldurian Republican League
ToDebating the Republic Act, 2234
MessageWe "Proud and Strong" to be the new Motto,

We do not oppose the positions of HoS & HoG resting on the same person

President is A-OK with us!

Date07:31:50, May 29, 2006 CET
FromAldurian Republican League
ToDebating the Republic Act, 2234
MessageWe propose "Proud and Strong" to be the new Motto,

We do not oppose the positions of HoS & HoG resting upon the same person

President is A-OK with us!

Date14:51:01, May 29, 2006 CET
FromAldurian Libertarian Socialist Party
ToDebating the Republic Act, 2234
Messageok, is every - republican- body is fine with 'Proud and Strong' ?

If we instaure a non hereditary Westminster (president do not chair the cabinet), who would support ?

Date16:16:32, May 29, 2006 CET
FromBendiri Bandidos
ToDebating the Republic Act, 2234
MessageWe would prefer to see the inspiring republican slogan "Liberty and Order" replace the current suggestion.

Date22:21:37, May 29, 2006 CET
FromRadical-Revolutionary Party
ToDebating the Republic Act, 2234
MessageWe will support it regardless, most likely, as it would still be far fairer than the terrible system now in place.

Date14:14:46, May 30, 2006 CET
FromAldurian Libertarian Socialist Party
ToDebating the Republic Act, 2234
MessageTrue, AMLP.

I cannot begin the voting procedure because the monarchist has 42% of seats (I think that it require 66% of all seats, even if JP abstains). It will let us some times to be fixed with the slogan ...

Date04:57:50, June 04, 2006 CET
FromAldurian Libertarian Socialist Party
ToDebating the Republic Act, 2234
MessageSince JP signified its support for a republic, i put this bill to vote...

Date11:48:54, June 04, 2006 CET
FromJacobites
ToDebating the Republic Act, 2234
MessageWell, it was more a thought than an actual definite demonstration of support.

Date14:57:15, June 04, 2006 CET
FromBendiri Bandidos
ToDebating the Republic Act, 2234
MessageThere is a distinct un-Bandido aroma to this proposed Republic. We are not happy and shall sit on the fence for a while longer as a sign of protest.

Date01:30:34, June 07, 2006 CET
FromAldurian Libertarian Socialist Party
ToDebating the Republic Act, 2234
Message>Well, it was more a thought than an actual definite demonstration of support.

I see...

>There is a distinct un-Bandido aroma to this proposed Republic. We are not happy and shall sit on the fence for a while longer as a sign of protest.

Where ?

Date12:09:40, June 07, 2006 CET
FromJacobites
ToDebating the Republic Act, 2234
MessageNothing is in Dago

Date13:40:20, June 07, 2006 CET
FromBendiri Bandidos
ToDebating the Republic Act, 2234
MessageThe caber tossing fools are correct. Also, the motto sucks big time !!

Date15:05:21, June 07, 2006 CET
FromAldurian Libertarian Socialist Party
ToDebating the Republic Act, 2234
Message>The caber tossing fools are correct. Also, the motto sucks big time !!

"Liberty and Order" I'm seeing your proposal for a motto. is it your only request ?

Date15:03:59, June 08, 2006 CET
FromBendiri Bandidos
ToDebating the Republic Act, 2234
MessageAt this moment in time, It is my learned friend.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 134

no
  

Total Seats: 156

abstain
    

Total Seats: 111


Random fact: Particracy allows you to establish an unelected head of state like a monarch or a president-for-life, but doing this is a bit of a process. First elect a candidate with the name "." to the Head of State position. Then change your law on the "Structure of the executive branch" to "The head of state is hereditary and symbolic; the head of government chairs the cabinet" and change the "formal title of the head of state" to how you want the new head of state's title and name to appear (eg. King Percy XVI).

Random quote: "Sometimes democracy must be bathed in blood." - Augusto Pinochet

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