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Bill: Honours Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: One Nation Conservative Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2239
Description[?]:
| The passing of this Act will establish the following honours system: a) Honours will be proposed by the Head of State no more than once every 8 years. If the Head of State fails to propose any honours in that period then the Head of Government will have the authority. There will be a limit of 1 honour every 3 years. A Head of State, if serving more than one term, must ensure that at least 50% of the awarded honours are made to persons outside of their own party. b) After the proposal is made, the proposed honours will be submitted to a customary debate and vote in Parliament. A straight majority is required to accept the honours. The following are a list of the possible honours (in precedence - the top honour being the most prestigious): 1) Lord Guardian of the Cedar Throne: LGCT may be used after the person's name or 'Lord Guardian' before. 2) Knight of the Commonwealth: KC may be used after the person's name or 'Lord (Knight)' before. 3) Order of the Pontesian Dynastic Commonwealth: OPC may be used after the person's name or Sir before 4) Member of the Pontesian Dynastic Commonwealth: MPC may be used after the person's name --- Honours shall be awarded to those members who have served Pontesi for an extended period of time and have shown great loyalty. Honours may be awarded post humously or to those who are alive. A lsit of eligible people are listed below. 1) Pontesian National politicians a) I.e. (This is not an exhaustiv elist) Ex Head of States, long serving cabinet ministers, long serving party leaders, deceased long serving party members. 2) Retired or current members of the armed forces 3) Retired or current members of the Police 4) Civilians who have gained important achievements for Pontesi |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:39:53, May 29, 2006 CET | From |   Pnték Znkak Prta 'Bastardry' | To | Debating the Honours Act |
| Message | I like this notion, but as these are Pontesian Honours, we don't really need to reiterate it in the latter two names do we? Why not just ODC and PDC, it'll be obvious which Dynastic Commonwealth it is, being the only one in Terra... For Knights, we could just have "Sir" beforehand, but LGCT is fine. Perhaps we should expand this into a styles thread for the Atabeg Accipitrum, Grand Vizier-General, party leaders and cabinet ministers and possibly styles for quandam Atabegs Accipitrum, GV-Gs, party leaders and ministers. The 8 year time limit is both understandable and a problem as it means that not all Heads of State will get to propose honours. Perhaps to make it fairer on future players, make it one honour per three years, with the Heads of State suggesting awards at the start of each executive term, allowing for debate and a vote, and then ceremonially presenting the awards at the end of the same term. To make it fairer still, perhaps we should make it so that Atabegs Accipitrum can only award honours to people outside of their own party for their first term, to promote good spirit. The first term after this is passed should probably be considered a first again as far as honours are concerned. We should also add a time from which these Honours start, I suggest from the next executive term after the passing of this bill. This means we'll only start working on awarding them when everyone's agreed on the terms and the system is already in place. |
| Date | 15:04:14, May 29, 2006 CET | From | One Nation Conservative Party | To | Debating the Honours Act |
| Message | "I like this notion, but as these are Pontesian Honours, we don't really need to reiterate it in the latter two names do we?" - Yeah, agreed. "Perhaps to make it fairer on future players, make it one honour per three years, with the Heads of State suggesting awards at the start of each executive term, allowing for debate and a vote, and then ceremonially presenting the awards at the end of the same term." - That seems fine as it still limits the number of honours appointed. "To make it fairer still, perhaps we should make it so that Atabegs Accipitrum can only award honours to people outside of their own party for their first term, to promote good spirit. The first term after this is passed should probably be considered a first again as far as honours are concerned." - Aye, I was considering a similar system - I'll put in the bill that at least 50% of honours should be assigned to members of other parties, though that doesn't necessarily mean the first term, it's for the sake of a minor party who might win the Atabeg Acciptitrumcy but who may not have recieved an honour from another party. |
| Date | 15:13:39, May 29, 2006 CET | From | Pnték Znkak Prta 'Bastardry' | To | Debating the Honours Act |
| Message | Concurred. |
| Date | 22:54:21, June 04, 2006 CET | From | Pnték Znkak Prta 'Bastardry' | To | Debating the Honours Act |
| Message | We could pass this now if we wanted... there's been a week of debate now. |
| Date | 19:48:35, June 06, 2006 CET | From | United Majatrans National Organization | To | Debating the Honours Act |
| Message | The masses reject such elitist nonsense! (ooc: although it's perfectly fine, and if i had any seats i'd vote yes rather than cause trouble.) |
| Date | 00:33:48, June 07, 2006 CET | From | Pnték Znkak Prta 'Bastardry' | To | Debating the Honours Act |
| Message | The masses can receive the honours. It's not as if there's an established mobility to make it elitist... Furthermore, when this passes, I'll add it to the FAQ. Seeing as it's the ONCP's fantastic idea, I'll let them suggest the wording for the FAQ and then add it. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 508 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 91 |
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| Random quote: "I never dared to be radical when young. For fear it would make me conservative when old." - Robert Frost |