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Bill: Education Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Progressive Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2235
Description[?]:
| Create a Public, Universal and Gratuit System of Education |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Higher education institutions.
Old value:: The government does not maintain any forms of higher education.
Current: The government maintains a system of universities, vocational schools, and colleges nationwide.
Proposed: The government maintains a system of universities, vocational schools, and colleges nationwide.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The regulation of higher education.
Old value:: The government does not fund any public higher education institutions, permitting only private higher education institutions to exist.
Current: The government allows public and private higher education institutions to coexist with self-regulation for those that are private.
Proposed: The government allows private higher education but regulates it to meet nationally set standards.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Higher education tuition policy.
Old value:: The government introduces means tested loans for higher education tuition, to be paid back by students after earnings reach a certain amount.
Current: The government subsidizes tuition only for students from families classified as low-income or poor.
Proposed: The government fully subsidizes tuition.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The education system.
Old value:: There is a free public education system alongside private schools.
Current: There is a free public education system and a small number of private schools, which are heavily regulated to ensure they teach adequate skills and information.
Proposed: There is a free public education system and a small number of private schools, which are heavily regulated to ensure they teach adequate skills and information.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 10:31:25, May 29, 2006 CET | From |  Fasces Kromina Conservatives | To | Debating the Education Bill |
| Message | You want a banana? |
| Date | 13:10:32, May 29, 2006 CET | From | Progressive Party | To | Debating the Education Bill |
| Message | Yes i do. |
| Date | 13:11:29, May 29, 2006 CET | From | Progressive Party | To | Debating the Education Bill |
| Message | Yes i do. |
| Date | 23:39:01, May 29, 2006 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Education Bill |
| Message | Ewwww |
| Date | 17:09:31, May 30, 2006 CET | From | Third Reform Party | To | Debating the Education Bill |
| Message | Ooh, an omnibus. That's my favorite kind of bus! |
| Date | 21:15:41, May 30, 2006 CET | From | Progressive Party | To | Debating the Education Bill |
| Message | What does the Liberty Party as to say on every citizen's right to a proper education besides "ewwww"? Is it not possible for us to agree that education is the most requisit on human an social development? |
| Date | 23:44:40, May 30, 2006 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Education Bill |
| Message | Nice strawman there, Progressive Party. First of all, a monolithic state 'education' system does not guarantee a proper education, therefore the suggestion that it is a choice between a state system and no education is a false dilemma. Second of all, while I can agree completely that education is important, it does not follow that I believe that citizens have a right to it. Rights have to be enforceable, and for a right to education to be enforceable you have to coerce someone into providing the education. As a libertarian party, we cannot support education at the cost of liberty. |
| Date | 04:32:49, May 31, 2006 CET | From | Progressive Party | To | Debating the Education Bill |
| Message | What do you mean by "monolithic"? the fact that it is a public system of education doesn't mean it as to be imutable. On the contrary: in many countries universities are granted full cientific authonomy, thus protecting the system from governamental interference, as well as ensuring that there will be a constant renoval of contents. I would also like to say that it is true that many private schools provide very good education. But at what cost? Such institutions are bound to demand prohibiting tuitions for the great majority of people, not also to support costs, but also to limit demand on its services. So in most cases, public schooling is the only opportunity to grant citizens with a proper education. And last but not the least, i believe that education is a right to all citizen and a duty to all governments. I really can't understand that last part - "education at the cost of liberty"?! Give me a break! If education is a right you are not enforcing subjects to provide - you are enforcing the state that is, by definition, enforceable to accomplish the interests of its citizens. |
| Date | 04:42:31, May 31, 2006 CET | From | Progressive Party | To | Debating the Education Bill |
| Message | And by the way: i'm wayting comments on my other proposal. I suppose the Liberty Party will vote against the prohibition of child labour so that they are not coerced to go to school instead.... |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 290 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 265 |
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