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Bill: Subsidized Library's
Details
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2070
Description[?]:
The gouvernment will subsidize library's, to encourage reading. For each book that is lend out, the writer and publisher gets a fee, for the copyright. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards the funding of libraries.
Old value:: Books may only be obtained through private dealers.
Current: Funding and operation of libraries is left entirely to local governments.
Proposed: The national government controls a vast and comprehensive system of public libraries.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:05:42, June 21, 2005 CET | From | Militant Labour Party | To | Debating the Subsidized Library's |
| Message | This legislation could be easily hijacked. Friends, family, etc. of a writer could enter a library and withdraw their book without charge. The government would then be obliged to provide the writer and publisher a fee. If this happened enough, they could get extremely rich off this and at the expense of the government. |
| Date | 17:05:53, June 21, 2005 CET | From |  First Socialist Party | To | Debating the Subsidized Library's |
| Message | Backed. |
| Date | 17:08:22, June 21, 2005 CET | From | First Socialist Party | To | Debating the Subsidized Library's |
| Message | Do you know the fines for not returning a book? More than the cost of the book, trust me. Its not worth it. |
| Date | 17:08:35, June 21, 2005 CET | From | stopped | To | Debating the Subsidized Library's |
| Message | - Everybody should have to be able to affort to read. It is a right in a civilised society and almost as important as food and a roof over you're head. - Reading helps educate our people, it stimulate the mind, it's good for the language skills and fantasy. And it broadens the intellectual horizon. |
| Date | 17:08:49, June 21, 2005 CET | From | Kellarly Party | To | Debating the Subsidized Library's |
| Message | Backed. MT & SH - Won't the writers just get a one off fee per book of theirs that is in use, not every time it is lent out? |
| Date | 17:12:40, June 21, 2005 CET | From | First Socialist Party | To | Debating the Subsidized Library's |
| Message | MT is proposing that they steal the book. |
| Date | 17:14:58, June 21, 2005 CET | From | Militant Labour Party | To | Debating the Subsidized Library's |
| Message | Apologies. I assumed that the writers/publishers would receive a fee each time their book was withdrawn. That was why my complaints were aired. May the Militant Tendency assure all parties that we are fundamentally in favour of the widespread distribution of reading material, and the promotion of literacy in Hutori. |
| Date | 18:24:32, June 21, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian Socialist Federation | To | Debating the Subsidized Library's |
| Message | Backed |
| Date | 18:38:16, June 21, 2005 CET | From | Ruthlessly Random Party | To | Debating the Subsidized Library's |
| Message | Um, do they not get a fee when the library buys the book for it's shelves? I think the extra clause is unnecessary. If this is passed, perhaps a national library with every book in print would be in order? |
| Date | 21:31:12, June 21, 2005 CET | From | stopped | To | Debating the Subsidized Library's |
| Message | They get a small fee every time the book is lend out. but if the book is lend out thousands of time's, thats a good income. (because it's about big numbers, a few relatives wont make much of a difference.) |
| Date | 23:51:38, June 21, 2005 CET | From | Ruthlessly Random Party | To | Debating the Subsidized Library's |
| Message | Then I withdraw my vote. The idea of a library is for it to be free, the expense of books paid for by fines. A copywrite holder has the rights to the book when purchased not when it is held in a library. |
| Date | 02:57:44, June 22, 2005 CET | From | First Socialist Party | To | Debating the Subsidized Library's |
| Message | If that is the case then I also withdraw my vote. |
| Date | 03:08:40, June 22, 2005 CET | From | First Socialist Party | To | Debating the Subsidized Library's |
| Message | We will back it for now, however, I have proposed an amendment. If ppl may comment so we may pass it asap? |
| Date | 03:33:33, June 22, 2005 CET | From | Communist Party | To | Debating the Subsidized Library's |
| Message | We are voting 'yes' in the hope that the SP's amendment will go forward as well. |
| Date | 04:00:31, June 22, 2005 CET | From | Federal Technocrats | To | Debating the Subsidized Library's |
| Message | Ditto. |
| Date | 09:21:44, June 22, 2005 CET | From | Ruthlessly Random Party | To | Debating the Subsidized Library's |
| Message | ooc: good thing I logged in to check my email before I went. |
| Date | 10:43:39, June 22, 2005 CET | From | First Socialist Party | To | Debating the Subsidized Library's |
| Message | OOC: Uhuh. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 199 | ||||||||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||||||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: The players in a nation have a collective responsibility to ensure their "Bills under debate" section is kept in good order. Bills which are irrelevant or have become irrelevant should be deleted. Deletion can be requested for bills proposed by inactive parties on the Bill Clearout Requests thread: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4363 |
| Random quote: "Hatred is not, and should never be considered as another form of freedom of expression." - Icarion Dadhelus, former Selucian politician |