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Bill: Justice reform
Details
Submitted by[?]: Nouveau Parti Démocrate
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 5167
Description[?]:
| Mr Speaker, dear colleagues, I, in quality of the minister of justice, have today the honour of bringing this bill to the parliament. It aims to a more humane justice and a sensible policy regarding the implementation of curfews by giving more power to local governments, who seem to us the most qualified when it comes to the evaluation of threats on a precise territory. As I am aware that article 2 will frighten some of you, my dear colleagues, I would like to ask you one simple question. Why should we have them dead? Some of you will say we have to set an example. But those people are terrorists or criminal against mankind, they know and death penalty will not stop them. It may only fascinate those who want to commit such crimes and add to their determination, and even worse, it may draw empathy on them and give them some admirers. I thank you for your attention. Nicolas de Malliergues, minister of justice. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Curfew policy (curfew time to be determined in the bill description).
Old value:: No-one may use streets or public property beyond the curfew time.
Current: Local governments may impose curfews, but only if a state of emergency has been declared.
Proposed: Local governments may impose curfews, but only if a state of emergency has been declared.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy with respect to the death penalty.
Old value:: The death penalty is not applied, except for terrorism, treason and crimes against mankind.
Current: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Proposed: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:31:19, August 16, 2022 CET | From |  Mouvement National Démocrate | To | Debating the Justice reform |
| Message | Mr.Speaker, We do not agree on the liberalisation of national security on either of these proposals made by our collegues. The death penalty is to be maintained for a simple reason. For criminals guilty of the most horrible crimes, why should tax payers be responsible for the prison fees of uncivilised criminals. We do agree that death penalty may in some cases be futile for those individuals, but the aftermath of those crimes should not be the burden of the society. Concerning the curfew, we agree that local governments may be in some cases most qualified but still in the principle of equity, only the national government should have the last say on such matters. We shall vote against on both proposals Alexandrie Sauriol Deputy of Numineux Head of UPD |
| Date | 06:02:43, August 17, 2022 CET | From | Federation Canrille | To | Debating the Justice reform |
| Message | Mr. Speaker Think there are occasions where national or local government might need to declare a curfew. Current provisions deals with what a curfew is and does not restrict either from declaring one. FC Assistant Chamber Leader Junot |
| Date | 09:21:56, August 17, 2022 CET | From | Nouveau Parti Démocrate | To | Debating the Justice reform |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Serious studies have shown that death penalty costs more to tax payers than life imprisonment. We would also draw your attention on the fact that the provision on curfews is not to our mind meant to prevent the government from declaring curfews (otherwise we would have written that "local governments may impose curfews but the government does not"), nor from "having the last say" on this matter — which will obviously be the case as only the government may declare the state of emergency. This bill aims to collaboration between local and national executives. By writing it, we also want to assert the fact that curfews must be declared in exceptional circumstances and that no government, whether it is national or local, shall abuse of power in this matter. We thank you for your attention. Nicolas de Malliergues, ministre de la justice. |
| Date | 11:13:53, August 17, 2022 CET | From | Mouvement National Démocrate | To | Debating the Justice reform |
| Message | Mr.Speaker, I would like to know in what world does death penalty costs more and in what way as the Ministre de la Justice probably have more accurate figures than us in the opposition? Alexandrie Sauriol |
| Date | 14:03:24, August 17, 2022 CET | From | Alliance Rose 🌹 | To | Debating the Justice reform |
| Message | Mr Speaker, The Alliance Rose supports these proposals wholeheartedly. It is absolutely right that local governments, who know their communities best, determine curfew times and provisions if needed. It is also absolutely right that the Kanjoran state acts with dignity and does not commit bloodshed. The state should not have special powers to kill where ordinary citizens would be jailed for the same, irrespective of the proclaimed "justification" for doing so. Romuald Droz, Alliance Shadow Justice Minister |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes |
Total Seats: 201 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 193 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 206 |
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| Random quote: "I swear to the Lord I still can't see Why Democracy means Everybody but me." - Langston Hughes, The Black Man Speaks |