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Bill: The Secular State Reform Act of Pontesian Dynastic Commonwealth for Decency of Governmence and Seperation of Religious influence in Democractic Institutions as an International Example of Freedom
Details
Submitted by[?]: Party for National Unity
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2241
Description[?]:
| To reduce the influence of religion on the state. To seperate Religious operation from the state and to ensure freedom and democracy prevail. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Old value:: Foreign missionaries are welcomed and encouraged by the government.
Current: The government has no policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Proposed: The government determines which missionaries are permitted to visit on a person by person basis.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The state's intervention in the appointment of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state has the right to veto the appointment of any ministers of religion.
Current: The state has the right to veto the appointment of any ministers of religion.
Proposed: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The state's policy concerning religious clothing.
Old value:: People are required to dress according to religious codes
Current: Public officials are not allowed to wear religious symbols while exercising their duties.
Proposed: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: All schools are required to be religious in nature.
Current: Religious schools are not allowed.
Proposed: Religious schools are allowed, but are strictly regulated. Only recognised religions may set up religious schools.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Remuneration of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The remuneration of ministers of religion shall be left up to the local governments.
Current: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Proposed: The salaries and pensions of ministers of religions shall be regulated by the law, but shall be borne by the religious communities themselves.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers in schools are encouraged.
Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 10:21:38, June 08, 2006 CET | From |  Party for National Unity | To | Debating the The Secular State Reform Act of Pontesian Dynastic Commonwealth for Decency of Governmence and Seperation of Religious influence in Democractic Institutions as an International Example of Freedom |
| Message | This is not a restrictive bill... But one simply set to seperate the state from religion. To not overtly encourage religion in our schooling system and foreign policy. This bill is open for debate on particular articles and does not have to be taken as a whole. We wish to open a dialogue hopefully that will result in some seperation of religion and state. |
| Date | 13:33:37, June 08, 2006 CET | From | One Nation Conservative Party | To | Debating the The Secular State Reform Act of Pontesian Dynastic Commonwealth for Decency of Governmence and Seperation of Religious influence in Democractic Institutions as an International Example of Freedom |
| Message | We welcome the PNU and apprecitate their desires to work for Pontesi, I'm afraid our perspectives on religion are ver different though and so the ONCP will vote against. |
| Date | 17:22:05, June 08, 2006 CET | From |  Pnték Znkak Prta 'Bastardry' | To | Debating the The Secular State Reform Act of Pontesian Dynastic Commonwealth for Decency of Governmence and Seperation of Religious influence in Democractic Institutions as an International Example of Freedom |
| Message | The Bastards are cautious about being overbearing on religion, but prefers pushing it into a corner over it pushing the august parliament into a corner. |
| Date | 03:46:58, June 09, 2006 CET | From | Party for National Unity | To | Debating the The Secular State Reform Act of Pontesian Dynastic Commonwealth for Decency of Governmence and Seperation of Religious influence in Democractic Institutions as an International Example of Freedom |
| Message | I feel that this bill is not overbearing on religion, I have included some additional proposals to show this. Specifically Article 2 which ensures the Freedom of Religious appointment. The rest are controlls aimed at ensuring religious authority is not abused from encrouching on the rights of individuals to determine how they're dressed to the rights of educating our children in the way we see fit as long as this education is not corrupting of the values of Pontesi people. |
| Date | 15:37:20, June 09, 2006 CET | From | Pnték Prsakij Prta (Phalangists) | To | Debating the The Secular State Reform Act of Pontesian Dynastic Commonwealth for Decency of Governmence and Seperation of Religious influence in Democractic Institutions as an International Example of Freedom |
| Message | This is an outragous attack on religion. Or at least we assume without reading, meh the PNU sounds like its full of tendy lefties, enough of a reason to vote no. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 226 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 323 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 126 |
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