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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of January 2070
Details
Submitted by[?]: International Socialist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2071
Description[?]:
| Proposing a Cabinet |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the 
People's Liberation Front (PPP)
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the MLC Old Endralonian Resistance
Article 3
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the People's Liberation Front (PPP)
Article 4
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the International Socialist Party
Article 5
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Communist Party of Endralon
Article 6
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the International Socialist Party
Article 7
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Democratic Socialists of Endralon
Article 8
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Unified Communist Labor Party
Article 9
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the People's Liberation Front (PPP)
Article 10
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the MLC Old Endralonian Resistance
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 03:05:09, June 22, 2005 CET | From | International Socialist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2070 |
| Message | I've tried to make this even, and hopefully giving it the most socialist cabinet. |
| Date | 03:05:46, June 22, 2005 CET | From | International Socialist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2070 |
| Message | I will except either of the other two if this one falls. |
| Date | 03:22:09, June 22, 2005 CET | From | MLC Old Endralonian Resistance | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2070 |
| Message | playing both teams somewhat arn't we ISP? frankly I'd prefer your other suggestion , in general coalitions should only be made to reach a majority (wouter actually gets really annoyed when we make coalitions like this) so unless its part of a permanent coalition deal (i.e. the IPSE) I don't think I should support cabinets such as this , that said I wouldnt exactly be mortified if it passed. |
| Date | 03:33:20, June 22, 2005 CET | From | International Socialist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2070 |
| Message | This would be a government of socialists, Wouter will have to take on the might of the Endralon Working Class. Permanent coalition i don't no how that works, anyway we are all comrades so i ll exept whatever the outcome |
| Date | 03:41:27, June 22, 2005 CET | From | People's Liberation Front (PPP) | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2070 |
| Message | I will serve in no cabinet that includes the UCLP. |
| Date | 03:49:23, June 22, 2005 CET | From | International Socialist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2070 |
| Message | Did i miss something? is ther an agrument going on i don't no about? I want in on it. |
| Date | 14:15:16, June 22, 2005 CET | From | Democratic Socialists of Endralon | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2070 |
| Message | Such statements by the PPP prove that it is impossible to work with them and they should therefore be excluded from any cabinet. |
| Date | 14:25:22, June 22, 2005 CET | From | MLC Old Endralonian Resistance | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2070 |
| Message | I also think I missed the conflict between PPP and UCLP , frankly with recent events I'd expect them to be complaining more about the MLC , but oh well I've got to say if the PPP's stance persists I would begin to agree with the DSE . In regards to the ISP I once proposed a permanent coalition between the main socialist parties of the time by which all positions in the cabinet barring Head of Government (which would still be given to the largest party in the coalition) would be assigned to a particular party regardless of voter swing between the parties involved. This cabinet would be imposed any time the signatories had a majority between them. You can look it up in the bills archive under Initiative for a permanent socialist Endralon (IPSE) It failed because the CPE would not support it and because the conservatives then began to eat away at our majority throwing matters into disarray. just to clear up some misunderstandings on the matter its aims were to cease infighting over cabinet positions between parties which were basically in agreement with one another , to allow the core voices of socialist endralon a permanent voice in national affairs and to allow signatory parties to become skilled at holding their particular cabinet positions. |
| Date | 15:13:44, June 22, 2005 CET | From | Unified Communist Labor Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2070 |
| Message | I think they're upset because I called them whiny Stalinists. |
| Date | 18:32:25, June 22, 2005 CET | From | Abandoned NFC Headquarters | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2070 |
| Message | I doubt that the Nihilist Fascist Collegiality will be able to support ANY cabinet bill until more rational conservatives come into Endralon. Unless I happen to retire, of course. |
| Date | 20:53:59, June 22, 2005 CET | From | International Socialist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2070 |
| Message | i see MLC thanks for clearing that one up. As for the PPP being stalinists im not sure, i have not see lots of Tankie (CPGB, who supported the tanks going into eastern europe) Policys. |
| Date | 21:57:39, June 22, 2005 CET | From | Imperial Conservative Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2070 |
| Message | The conservatives support this cabinet. |
| Date | 22:13:05, June 22, 2005 CET | From | Democratic Socialists of Endralon | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2070 |
| Message | The PPP has supported the banning of peaceful protests, the compulsory carrying of ID cards, the militarisation of the police, the retriction of abortion rights and the reduction of foreign aid. I would consider these to be Stalinist policies. |
| Date | 22:19:48, June 22, 2005 CET | From | International Socialist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2070 |
| Message | agreed i will withdraw my bill |
| Date | 22:45:22, June 22, 2005 CET | From | People's Liberation Front (PPP) | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2070 |
| Message | We supported the disbursement of unruly crowds, crowds that spread hate (Nazis) and other such disturbances. Secondly, we want compulsory ID cards because that helps control crime and build a safer and more secure society. The militarization of the police is necessary to protect the people and end the tyranny that gangs and other criminal organizations have. Abortion is murder. That is why we support limiting it to the first trimester. And we support reasonable levels of foreign aid. There is no reason to bankrupt our nation to support other causes and nations. |
| Date | 23:00:39, June 22, 2005 CET | From | International Socialist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2070 |
| Message | Id Cards its against workers rights We as Socialists dont support scrapping the state to replace it with a worse one Polis they should be abolished we need workers Militas not The State sending there bullie Boys round |
| Date | 21:47:20, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Communist Party of Endralon | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2070 |
| Message | Yes, the PPP are Stalinists. HOWEVER, Stalinists are better than capitalists. We should always keep that in mind. I disagree with many of the PPP's authoritarian policies, but, as the voting record shows, the things we have in common with the PPP outnumber the things we disagree on. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 509 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 148 |
| Random fact: It is forbidden to impersonate a player or Moderator. |
| Random quote: "I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church." - Thomas Paine |