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Bill: A bigger and better government for a bigger and better tukarali
Details
Submitted by[?]: One Nation Socialist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2249
Description[?]:
| By increasing the capability of our government we can safely manage the progress of tukarali through to the next century towards a psitive direction. The child benefit policy is a fairer and more efficient way of providing universal benefits. Full benefits are given to cover the cost of the first child of all famillies if they wish to claim it. the state will then pay half this amount for the second child and then half that for the third and so on. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding child benefit.
Old value:: The state guarantees child benefit to families classified as low-income or poor.
Current: The state guarantees child benefit to families classified as low-income or poor.
Proposed: The state guarantees child benefit to all families.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government policy regarding housing.
Old value:: All housing is privately-owned.
Current: The state provides public housing to low-income families.
Proposed: All housing is private but rent is subsidised for low-income households.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:53:49, June 30, 2006 CET | From | One Nation Socialist Party | To | Debating the A bigger and better government for a bigger and better tukarali |
| Message | The child benefit policy is a fairer and more efficient way of providing universal benefits. Full benefits are given to cover the cost of the first child of all famillies if they wish to claim it. the state will then pay half this amount for the second child and then half that for the third and so on. |
| Date | 22:42:13, June 30, 2006 CET | From | Federal Conservatives | To | Debating the A bigger and better government for a bigger and better tukarali |
| Message | Bigger Govt is never better govt and to favor oldest children is in no way treating all citizens equally. Should we also take away voting rights to all but the eldest born? Should we relegate non-first borns to special holding centers? make them our working class? heck, instead of just offering health care to the eldest, whjy not also shoot the younger ones who get sick as well? we strongly OPPOSE |
| Date | 23:22:48, June 30, 2006 CET | From | Patriot Party | To | Debating the A bigger and better government for a bigger and better tukarali |
| Message | Oppose 1, 3, and 4 but we could support 2 |
| Date | 23:59:09, June 30, 2006 CET | From | One Nation Socialist Party | To | Debating the A bigger and better government for a bigger and better tukarali |
| Message | it is fairer FC in that it is available to all famillies. And the money would only be a subsidy used by parents for all children but is a deterrant for having children growin g up in a familly that doesn't actually have the resources to support them increasing the responsibility to the individual.. As it is people on a low income have babies just to get child beneift. We proposed the child benefit scheme to try and wean people off social security in the long term. |
| Date | 00:09:52, July 01, 2006 CET | From | Patriot Party | To | Debating the A bigger and better government for a bigger and better tukarali |
| Message | Might as well do away it all together then if you want to wean people off of it. Once people start getting free money from the government, they will want to continue getting free money from the government. |
| Date | 02:07:18, July 01, 2006 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the A bigger and better government for a bigger and better tukarali |
| Message | Giving out free money is not the solution to weaning people off the government. Opposed to article 1. Article 2 we oppose for we like the current law as is. Article 3 we oppose for it will increase medical costs which is unacceptable Article 4 we oppose because it should remain private and unsubsidized |
| Date | 09:43:40, July 01, 2006 CET | From | Greenish Liberal Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the A bigger and better government for a bigger and better tukarali |
| Message | We support 1 and 4, and maybe we'ld consider articles 2 and 3 too, but that's a bit more shady at the moment.. |
| Date | 11:19:56, July 01, 2006 CET | From | fiodor Party | To | Debating the A bigger and better government for a bigger and better tukarali |
| Message | support 1 and maybe 4 opposed 2 and 3 |
| Date | 14:29:08, July 01, 2006 CET | From | One Nation Socialist Party | To | Debating the A bigger and better government for a bigger and better tukarali |
| Message | well what is bad about holding companies providing a vital resource to account. |
| Date | 15:45:29, July 01, 2006 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the A bigger and better government for a bigger and better tukarali |
| Message | What is bad about trying to keep medical costs low so that people can afford to be taken care of? |
| Date | 17:11:55, July 02, 2006 CET | From | Greenish Liberal Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the A bigger and better government for a bigger and better tukarali |
| Message | @FC: "Bigger Govt is never better govt" Federal Conservatives: Centralization: moderate federalist Civil Rights: restrictive-leaning Ecology: unknown Foreign Relations: internationalist-leaning Government Responsibilities: convinced big government !!! Market: regulator-leaning Military: unknown Morality: conservative-leaning Religion: moderate religious *giggles* ;-) |
| Date | 19:44:22, July 03, 2006 CET | From | One Nation Socialist Party | To | Debating the A bigger and better government for a bigger and better tukarali |
| Message | Articles 2 & 3 have been removed |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 232 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 267 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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