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Bill: A bigger government for a bigger and better tukarali
Details
Submitted by[?]: One Nation Socialist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2250
Description[?]:
| A continuation of bill no 1 |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The nation's defence industry.
Old value:: Defence industries are privately owned and not subsidised.
Current: The state owns national defence industries but these exist alongside privately owned defence industries.
Proposed: Defence industries are privately owned but subsidised by the state.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning organ donations.
Old value:: Organ donations are legal with personal consent.
Current: Organ donations are legal with personal consent.
Proposed: Unless otherwise stated, consent is assumed.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:24:49, June 30, 2006 CET | From | One Nation Socialist Party | To | Debating the A bigger government for a bigger and better tukarali |
| Message | Article 1we must erxert some control over these companies. they are dealing in lethal weapons that end lives after all. |
| Date | 23:29:34, June 30, 2006 CET | From | Patriot Party | To | Debating the A bigger government for a bigger and better tukarali |
| Message | opposed to both articles. |
| Date | 23:39:18, June 30, 2006 CET | From | Greenish Liberal Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the A bigger government for a bigger and better tukarali |
| Message | We support the first. And although we understand the good intentions behind it, we're gonna oppose the second. |
| Date | 02:13:45, July 01, 2006 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the A bigger government for a bigger and better tukarali |
| Message | undecided about 1 and a definite no on the 2nd. |
| Date | 11:00:21, July 01, 2006 CET | From | One Nation Socialist Party | To | Debating the A bigger government for a bigger and better tukarali |
| Message | would parties support if the bill was split up and article 2 was removed? |
| Date | 11:17:40, July 01, 2006 CET | From | fiodor Party | To | Debating the A bigger government for a bigger and better tukarali |
| Message | we oppose to the first and support the second. |
| Date | 15:50:18, July 01, 2006 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the A bigger government for a bigger and better tukarali |
| Message | You support a bill that will harvest organs without the person's consent? Yuck. |
| Date | 23:53:27, July 01, 2006 CET | From | Greenish Liberal Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the A bigger government for a bigger and better tukarali |
| Message | It's just the difference between an opt-in and an opt-out system.. Actually, in most countries where the so-called opt-out system (consent is assumed, unless they've made it clear before they don't want to donate their organs), the views of the relatives are asked, and they can refuse. |
| Date | 12:20:10, July 02, 2006 CET | From | fiodor Party | To | Debating the A bigger government for a bigger and better tukarali |
| Message | "You support a bill that will harvest organs without the person's consent? Yuck" if the person is dead wath is the problem? he will no need them anymore... |
| Date | 18:15:33, July 02, 2006 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the A bigger government for a bigger and better tukarali |
| Message | And what if it goes against his wishes to do so? |
| Date | 09:56:42, July 03, 2006 CET | From | One Nation Socialist Party | To | Debating the A bigger government for a bigger and better tukarali |
| Message | then he can state so can't he " Unless stated" DUH |
| Date | 15:45:43, July 03, 2006 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the A bigger government for a bigger and better tukarali |
| Message | And what if he doesn't do that and he still doesn't want his organs donated? This is ripe for abuse and this should be voted down. |
| Date | 15:43:21, July 06, 2006 CET | From | One Nation Socialist Party | To | Debating the A bigger government for a bigger and better tukarali |
| Message | well if he doesn't want his organs to be donated he just has to legally state so as would be his legal right. How will that be abused. It is very simple and effective which is why it shouldn't be voted down. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 126 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 267 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: It is not allowed to call more than 5 elections in 5 game years in a nation. The default sanction for a player persisting in the early election tactic will be a seat reset. |
| Random quote: "Conservatives define themselves in terms of what they oppose." - George Will |