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Bill: Rentenalter Gesetz
Details
Submitted by[?]: Frühling 🟪
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 5403
Description[?]:
| We have said this many many times, and it is finally time to do it and pass this bill! We are very ready to pass this bill, raise the retirement age and then lower the budget of the Health and Social Services ministry, and lower taxes. People know better how to spend their money and how to save their money for retirement. Our people live longer and can work longer. Our current system is just social engineering and a limitation of our economic system by allowing 61+ people to be lazy and stop working. Kurt-Julian Spellerberg Minister of Finance, Stv. Leader of TZ |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The professional retirement age.
Old value:: 61
Current: 61
Proposed: 64
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 10:43:46, December 04, 2023 CET | From | Dundorfs Sozialdemokratische Partei 🌹 | To | Debating the Rentenalter Gesetz |
| Message | Dear colleagues, DSDP, the largest party in the country, strongly opposes this reform. The cabinet, led by a party who came in second place, and supported collectively by parties which in the first round of the past Presidential election couldn't even reach 45%, is now pushing for a radical, ultra-right-wing and evil reform of the retirment age. The Government is now telling hard-working people that their work, sacrifices in their decades-old carreers, are worthless. "You need to work more because Spellerberg wishes so!", is telling this cabinet to the Dundorfians. If privileged poltiicians in this body believe that workers can perform taxing and tough tasks until 64, I say to them: resign from here, and try it! Mr. Spellerberg, why don't you resign and go in a diamond mine field, and work there until you're 64? I can announce to Bundestag and to the People that once this bill has passed, we will endorse strikes against this reform, and cooperate closely with trade unions which announce so. Moreover, this radical cabinet is now defining 61+ people as "lazy". This is unacceptable, and we ask a formal apology to The People by TZ, Minister Spellenberg and Chancellor Kaiser, unable to control the activities of his Ministers. Paula Engelhart, Leader of the Opposition - DSDP |
| Date | 11:56:04, December 04, 2023 CET | From | Frühling 🟪 | To | Debating the Rentenalter Gesetz |
| Message | Dear Mrs Engelhart, this cabinet has the majority of seats, we represent the majority of the people of Dundorf. We have been elected in a democratic election or do you want to dispute that? Workers can work till 64, our healthcare system is one of the best. It is very good. But this greatness means, that our people stay healthy and live longer. If people live longer and are healthy longer, they logically work longer and till higher ages. That is simple logic and 1st-grade mathematics, I am not surprised that you can not do that and you can not comprehend this. But I am sure that Dundorfians do and they see the clear and fair intention of our cabinet. And no, I'm not saying that 61+ people are lazy, I'm saying they shall not be lazy and work till 64, because statistics show us, they absolute majority is able to. This is a clear example of the difference between socialists and us from TZ. We want people to spend their money as they want, and save their money if they want. But nooo, socialists like Mrs. Engelhart would tax everybody, redistribute everything, and one day, maybe we will establish communism in Dundorf! We had this, we don't want that, thank you, but no thanks. I won't just stand and do nothing when we give out money, when we do not have to and we can save this money and do not take this money from the hard-working people. You so proudly support the workers, yet you want to tax them to the limit and decide over their hard-earned money. They know better! Kurt-Julian Spellerberg Minister of Finance, Stv. Leader of TZ |
| Date | 16:39:41, December 04, 2023 CET | From | Dundorfs Sozialdemokratische Partei 🌹 | To | Debating the Rentenalter Gesetz |
| Message | When reactionaries are wrong and are losing popular mandate, they reserve to the good old "DSDP = Communism" argument. In more than 180 years of history, DSDP has never questioned democracy, nor proposed radical bills to alter the judicial system at once, putting the Rule of Law in peril. Other parties do that, not us. Paula Engelhart, Leader of the Opposition - DSDP |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 304 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 227 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 67 |
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