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Bill: Right to Life
Details
Submitted by[?]: Romantic Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2250
Description[?]:
| Point 1: The unborn fetus has as much a right to life as any other individual. Point 2: In our socialist state, women are not forced by economic or social circumstance into being unable to support a child, both by our generous child aid and our open adoption system. There is no legal stigma towards single mothers, nor is there economic pressure. Point 3: The state adoption system is perfectly prepared to shoulder the burden of children who would have been aborted, (considering that their number is low, being a fairly new "freedom") and sterile and homosexual couples are more than willing to aid. Point 4: Morally, the right to an abortion overlooks the key tenets of our socialist mores. It denies commitment to others, it denies compassion, it denies the dignity of human life and it abstracts the act of killing. It encourages the oppression of the weak by the strong, and affirms a commitment to greed and pleasure over moral good. Ultimately, I would like to remind the assembly that their lives would have been quite different had they been aborted. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the legality of abortions
Old value:: Abortion is allowed during the first and second trimesters.
Current: Abortion is allowed during the first and second trimesters.
Proposed: Abortions are only allowed in medical emergencies.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 08:47:35, July 03, 2006 CET | From | Aldurian Labor Party | To | Debating the Right to Life |
| Message | i agree but i prefer it to be "abortion is illegal." |
| Date | 13:44:22, July 03, 2006 CET | From | Aldurian League of Communists | To | Debating the Right to Life |
| Message | This is a blatant attack on the freedom of Alduria's women by an increasingly conservative group. Although professing to be a liberal or even at times a 'socialist', the position of the romantic party in the 'centre ground' rather than wholly supportive of the revolution is increasingly forcing the party into alliance with the most reactionary elements of the aristocracy and bourgoisie - ie the AOP and JP. This legislation amounts to physical abuse of women by denying them the right to make decisions about their own bodies and reproductive capability, we cannot allow this to pass. |
| Date | 16:33:46, July 03, 2006 CET | From | Bendiri Bandidos | To | Debating the Right to Life |
| Message | As the only other morally progressive party in Alduria, we fully support the RNP's position on what can only be described as a Bill from the Dark Ages. |
| Date | 18:52:27, July 03, 2006 CET | From | Romantic Party | To | Debating the Right to Life |
| Message | It is not "morally progressive" to allow slayings on demand. It is not "morally progressive" to deny people's obligations to others, nor to deny the dignity of human life. It is not socialist to allow the killing of the weak by the strong. It is not socialist to submit to bourgeois vices of promiscuity and rootless wanderings. WE stand on high moral ground, we stand for the true tenets of socialism. You have tainted it with flawed capitalist wishes and with far too great an emphasis on the individual. Your so-called "liberal" politics are nothing more than treachery to socialist ideals, an attempt to create a truly capitalist state, one of debauchery and parasitism. |
| Date | 00:18:13, July 04, 2006 CET | From | Bendiri Bandidos | To | Debating the Right to Life |
| Message | You are beginning to sound like a ranting delusional madman RP. Any respect for your intellect that I may have had is now rapidly diminishing. |
| Date | 00:22:23, July 04, 2006 CET | From | Romantic Party | To | Debating the Right to Life |
| Message | Truly, what is an emphasis on individual rights other than a liberal-capitalist invention? The undue influence you place on them seems to throw ideas of solidarity and group responsibility to the side..... We stand for social duties over liberal debauchery/individual rights. |
| Date | 00:33:17, July 04, 2006 CET | From | Bendiri Bandidos | To | Debating the Right to Life |
| Message | Above all else RP, you are a delusional conservative. Lets not pretend otherwise. |
| Date | 00:52:31, July 04, 2006 CET | From | Romantic Party | To | Debating the Right to Life |
| Message | Fine, call me a conservative. If thats what it takes to believe in social duties above capitalist debauchery, then we are conservatives. |
| Date | 01:02:30, July 04, 2006 CET | From | Bendiri Bandidos | To | Debating the Right to Life |
| Message | Don't forget the delusional bit as well. |
| Date | 01:46:01, July 04, 2006 CET | From | Radical-Revolutionary Party | To | Debating the Right to Life |
| Message | *Gufaws abound from the 5 AMLP delegates during the entire debate.* |
| Date | 08:46:29, July 04, 2006 CET | From | Aldurian Labor Party | To | Debating the Right to Life |
| Message | Yes from me. JP should vote yes aswell. |
| Date | 17:10:55, July 04, 2006 CET | From | Bendiri Bandidos | To | Debating the Right to Life |
| Message | JP lost their voice have they? Looks like they've become the AOP's bitch !! |
| Date | 00:24:45, July 06, 2006 CET | From | Aldurian Labor Party | To | Debating the Right to Life |
| Message | they might not |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 146 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 223 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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