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Bill: Civil Justice Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Democratic Party of Kirlawa
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2254
Description[?]:
| several changes to our justice bills |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Curfew policy (curfew time to be determined in the bill description).
Old value:: No curfew policies may be established.
Current: The national government may impose curfews, but only if a state of emergency has been declared.
Proposed: Local governments may impose curfews, but only if a state of emergency has been declared.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy with respect to the death penalty.
Old value:: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Current: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Proposed: The death penalty is not applied, except for terrorism, treason and crimes against mankind.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The terms of extradition.
Old value:: Extradition to nations with capital punishment or with cruel or inhumane treatment of suspects and convicts is not allowed.
Current: The law does not limit the power of the government to pursue extradition treaties.
Proposed: Extradition to nations with capital punishment is not allowed, unless there are assurances that the death penalty will not be imposed.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The weapons used by police forces.
Old value:: Police officers may only carry non-lethal weapons apart from specially trained firearms units.
Current: Police officers may only carry standard firearms apart from specially trained firearms units.
Proposed: Police officers may only carry standard firearms apart from specially trained firearms units.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 09:25:39, July 14, 2006 CET | From | Kirlawan Popular Front | To | Debating the Civil Justice Bill |
| Message | Pretty much a 'No' across the board. |
| Date | 18:13:21, July 14, 2006 CET | From | Liberal Progressive Party | To | Debating the Civil Justice Bill |
| Message | 1) Possibly, but it must be the decision of the federal government. 2) No way. The death penalty is a terrible thing. 3) No way. See 2). 4) No. We cannot be foolhardy with weapons. A taser can do damage. A baton can do damage. Why do we need firearms to simply stop a suspect? |
| Date | 21:28:30, July 14, 2006 CET | From | Democratic Party of Kirlawa | To | Debating the Civil Justice Bill |
| Message | will a taser or baton stop a criminal with a firearm? as for two I think in certain extreme cases it is necessary terrorist traitors and mass murders do not deserve life or sympathy as for extradiction we cannot continue to harbor criminals who fled to our country for protection that is just crazy |
| Date | 22:50:31, July 14, 2006 CET | From | Liberal Progressive Party | To | Debating the Civil Justice Bill |
| Message | A taser can. If there is a heavily armed criminal, that's what we have special squads for. How can you justify something that can kill innocents? People can be accused and convicted wrongly. With prison they can be released - with death they cannot. And we can punish them in our own country. We won't extradite to inhuman regimes. |
| Date | 04:52:41, July 15, 2006 CET | From | Democratic Party of Kirlawa | To | Debating the Civil Justice Bill |
| Message | when it comes to terrorist mass murders and traitors it is highly doubtful our courts will get it wrong plus there are years of appeals if the crime was committed in another country it should be handled in another country as for the police lets say that an officer stops a guy on a routine traffic stop and the guy opens fire is the officer suppose to throw his baton at him? there are cituations in which you cant wait for special squads to save the day |
| Date | 11:54:27, July 15, 2006 CET | From | Kirlawan Popular Front | To | Debating the Civil Justice Bill |
| Message | If the cops have guns, do you think that criminals are more or less likely to make sure they are armed as well? |
| Date | 21:24:49, July 15, 2006 CET | From | Democratic Party of Kirlawa | To | Debating the Civil Justice Bill |
| Message | i think criminals would try to obtain guns whether or not cops are armed |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 143 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 380 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 224 |
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