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Bill: "Joie de Vivre" Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Kirlawan Communist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2267
Description[?]:
| People should not live out the golden years of their lives working. We should allow them to retire and enjoy life as early as possible. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The professional retirement age.
Old value:: 64
Current: 62
Proposed: 58
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:34:16, August 10, 2006 CET | From | Democratic Party of Kirlawa | To | Debating the "Joie de Vivre" Act |
| Message | you know what kind of strain that puts on the economy plus people are living longer then ever if anything we should raise the age to 65-67 |
| Date | 19:15:24, August 10, 2006 CET | From | Kirlawan Communist Party | To | Debating the "Joie de Vivre" Act |
| Message | "The economy" as you put it is a convenient capitalist excuse for putting profits above people. Wait till we really get our hands on your precious "economy." |
| Date | 20:51:21, August 10, 2006 CET | From | Kirlawan Popular Front | To | Debating the "Joie de Vivre" Act |
| Message | We prefer the status quo |
| Date | 01:33:38, August 11, 2006 CET | From | Democratic Party of Kirlawa | To | Debating the "Joie de Vivre" Act |
| Message | hmm sounds like your typical socialist rant in capitalism economic success helps everybody unlike socialism which is a flawed fantasy that cannot and does not work in the real world |
| Date | 02:56:44, August 11, 2006 CET | From | Kirlawan Communist Party | To | Debating the "Joie de Vivre" Act |
| Message | Bourgeois lies! Capitalism destroys people, breaking them down until they are no more than the worth of their individual labor. Socialism frees people from the burdens of selling their labor, and liberates them to participate equally in society with their fellow workers. |
| Date | 15:00:15, August 11, 2006 CET | From | Democratic Party of Kirlawa | To | Debating the "Joie de Vivre" Act |
| Message | ask the people in china, cuba, north korea, vietnam, and the former soviet union how much communism has freed them complete economic equality is an unobtainable myth |
| Date | 20:02:40, August 11, 2006 CET | From | Kirlawan Popular Front | To | Debating the "Joie de Vivre" Act |
| Message | But if Capitalism makes us into the kind of boors that exemplify the KDP, we choose any alternative. |
| Date | 20:34:29, August 11, 2006 CET | From | Kirlawan Communist Party | To | Debating the "Joie de Vivre" Act |
| Message | Um, where are these places of which you speak, DPK? My model for socialist success is Dundorf. They've managed to create a virtual paradise over there, and we'd like to import a lot of their success to Kirlawa. |
| Date | 23:53:10, August 11, 2006 CET | From | Democratic Party of Kirlawa | To | Debating the "Joie de Vivre" Act |
| Message | well popular atleast i've choosen my way of thinking through rational thought and commy Kirlawa currently has the strongest economy in the world so we aren't doing that bad |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 58 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 689 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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