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Bill: National Reform Act II (Sept. 2072)
Details
Submitted by[?]: National Progressive Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2073
Description[?]:
| This bill is intended to protect the working class of Telamon. It is important to make sure that no one has to work until they are very old. People should be entitled to certain benifits after decades of hard work, such as a pension and food, housing, and health stipends from the government. This bill aims at doing just that. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The professional retirement age.
Old value:: 66
Current: 66
Proposed: 62
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 07:02:20, June 27, 2005 CET | From | National Progressive Party | To | Debating the National Reform Act II (Sept. 2072) |
| Message | No one should have to work to death. Retire early and do the things you enjoy to do before you die. Thats what I would want, and thats what most Telamonians would want. |
| Date | 08:25:41, June 27, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party of Telamon | To | Debating the National Reform Act II (Sept. 2072) |
| Message | agreed |
| Date | 08:38:30, June 27, 2005 CET | From | Rationalist Party | To | Debating the National Reform Act II (Sept. 2072) |
| Message | Would agree |
| Date | 19:05:50, June 27, 2005 CET | From |  Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United | To | Debating the National Reform Act II (Sept. 2072) |
| Message | There is no way 62 is possible. With life expectancy increasing, there will not be enough money for all these retired people. |
| Date | 18:53:55, June 28, 2005 CET | From | Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United | To | Debating the National Reform Act II (Sept. 2072) |
| Message | If you want to retire earlier, save up your money when you are young and use that. |
| Date | 22:36:53, June 28, 2005 CET | From | National Progressive Party | To | Debating the National Reform Act II (Sept. 2072) |
| Message | For some people, particularly the lower class, saving money is next to impossible. Housing, food, children, and health cost, prevent may lowe income families from saving up enough money to retire safely. |
| Date | 02:39:10, June 29, 2005 CET | From | Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United | To | Debating the National Reform Act II (Sept. 2072) |
| Message | If you are that poor, dont have children. I know plenty of old people that work. They can do it. If they are physically unable to work that would be different, but this bill isn't really about that. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 108 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 123 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 19 |
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