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Bill: Boosting the natural increase act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Patriotic Libertarian Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2073
Description[?]:
| Contraceptives shall not be free as they are not safe, especially for young women. And by offering them free, we're supporting a low natural increase! |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on subsidising contraception.
Old value:: The government offers free contraceptives in pharmacies and public toilets.
Current: The government subsidises a considerable discount for contraceptives.
Proposed: The government does not supply free or discounted contraceptives.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:40:03, June 27, 2005 CET | From | Democratic Socialists of Endralon | To | Debating the Boosting the natural increase act |
| Message | The provision of free contraception is a vital part of any programme to reduce the occurrence of STDs and to keep the number of abortions and unwanted pregnancies as low as possible. We would also like the PLP to provide some evidence to back up their ridiculous claim about contraceptives being unsafe. |
| Date | 22:57:11, June 27, 2005 CET | From | Imperial Conservative Party | To | Debating the Boosting the natural increase act |
| Message | Sorry, but we're in favour of liberal social policies, and this isn't down our street. Less contraception, more abortion, more suffering all round. |
| Date | 23:06:52, June 27, 2005 CET | From | Patriotic Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Boosting the natural increase act |
| Message | http://www.anael.org/english/contraceptives/ Ovaries development is totally complete at the age 18. If contraceptives are used before this age, sterility, sexual frigidity and infantile womb can happen. Using chemicals is dangerous, they must be perfectly chosen for the woman, otherwise it could end badly. I'm not wanting to ban them, but the state cannot take the responsibility for this risk. |
| Date | 23:40:35, June 27, 2005 CET | From | Imperial Conservative Party | To | Debating the Boosting the natural increase act |
| Message | Condoms also count as contraceptives, and are more what I had in mind. |
| Date | 23:51:02, June 27, 2005 CET | From | Patriotic Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Boosting the natural increase act |
| Message | Generally I have nothing against condoms, but they shouldn't be given out for free! That would just lead to 15-year olds haveing sex. |
| Date | 11:47:20, June 28, 2005 CET | From | MLC Old Endralonian Resistance | To | Debating the Boosting the natural increase act |
| Message | whereas not giving out condoms leads to 15-year olds having unprotected sex ..... I very much doubt the effect of contraception and its availability in changing the amount of sex happening in any real proportion. However they most definately do have an effect on the ratio of protected to unprotected sex occuring. People have always been willing to risk pregnancy and STD's for casual sex however when contraception is available they will often opt for protection as the best of both worlds. As for safety I always assumed only condoms and similar physical contraception were offered freely without human interaction ,I am indeed aware of the dangers and side-effects related to the contraceptive pill this should still be available freely easily and anonymously but should involve a doctor at first (or possibly a qualified pharmacist) to explain the effects of the pill (this should also be incorporated in the school sex education system). |
| Date | 20:41:02, June 28, 2005 CET | From | Communist Party of Endralon | To | Debating the Boosting the natural increase act |
| Message | Hey, PLP, are you a fan of Nicolaie Ceausescu, our former Stalinist leader? Because banning abortion and contraception in order to increase population growth was EXACTLY what he did. |
| Date | 20:57:39, June 28, 2005 CET | From | Patriotic Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Boosting the natural increase act |
| Message | Nahh, it's just populism ;) I know better ways of boosting the increase, but unfortunately no possibilities of cutting social services in this game... and Nicolaie... deserved to get shot :) |
| Date | 21:03:25, June 28, 2005 CET | From | Communist Party of Endralon | To | Debating the Boosting the natural increase act |
| Message | Yes he did... And so do our current president and prime minister, but that's another story. *mumbles* ...Tariceanu n-are decat sa se duca in pizda ma-sii de liberal imputit... |
| Date | 21:55:52, June 28, 2005 CET | From | Patriotic Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Boosting the natural increase act |
| Message | Harsh words dude, forgotten English? :> Isn't it fascinating that cunt is the same in Romanian as in Polish? :) |
| Date | 22:01:22, June 28, 2005 CET | From | Communist Party of Endralon | To | Debating the Boosting the natural increase act |
| Message | Whoops. Didn't know that. I'll have to keep it in mind for future reference. Hehe. :) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 72 | |||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 495 | |||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 92 |
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