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Bill: Social Conservatism Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: True Valruzians
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2284
Description[?]:
Espousing a platform of social conservatism. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning who can proceed with adoption; in case adoption is legal.
Old value:: Everyone may adopt children.
Current: Everyone may adopt children.
Proposed: Only heterosexual couples and singles may adopt children.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy toward marriage.
Old value:: The government does not involve itself in marriage or civil unions.
Current: The government does not involve itself in marriage or civil unions.
Proposed: The government only recognises civil marriages between a man and a woman.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Displays of public affection and obscenity laws.
Old value:: There are no laws regarding obscene public acts.
Current: Sexual intercourse is illegal in public.
Proposed: Sexual intercourse is illegal in public.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on sexual relations.
Old value:: Sexual relations of all types are legal for consenting adults.
Current: Sexual relations of all types are legal for consenting adults.
Proposed: Heterosexual relationships only are legal for consenting adults.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 15:11:37, September 14, 2006 CET | From | United People's Party | To | Debating the Social Conservatism Bill |
Message | Truly terrible. So it is better for children to remain with abusive parents or in orphanages rather than have gay people adopt them, what could being gay have to do with their ability to raise children? |
Date | 15:20:28, September 14, 2006 CET | From | Valruzian National Party | To | Debating the Social Conservatism Bill |
Message | Homophobic, restrictive, conservative and backwards. The VZF condemn the very existance of this bill. |
Date | 15:31:31, September 14, 2006 CET | From | United People's Party | To | Debating the Social Conservatism Bill |
Message | I don't think conservative is the right word for it...its beyond that. |
Date | 15:59:56, September 14, 2006 CET | From | True Valruzians | To | Debating the Social Conservatism Bill |
Message | How can you get beyond conservatism? In a natural state, a homosexual couple cannot conceive children together, yet we allow them to adopt, despite the fact it is not natural, and certainly unfair on the child. Ideally in order to reach their best potential all children need a mother and a father, but two fathers cannot provide the same support as a real family. We also condemn the very existence of the VZF. |
Date | 17:15:23, September 15, 2006 CET | From | United People's Party | To | Debating the Social Conservatism Bill |
Message | Well there's conservatism, a perfectly rational and valid way of thinking and then there's homophobia, and such things, that rely on prejudices and hate. I think you'll find adoption isn't natural, so therefore to say couples can't because it is unnatural is very odd. So it is better for a child to remain in an orphanage than be adopted by loving, caring, considerate, gay people? |
Date | 18:08:56, September 15, 2006 CET | From | True Valruzians | To | Debating the Social Conservatism Bill |
Message | Adoption is perfectly natural and has occurred forever. Homosexuals having children is not natural, and in fact is impossible without recourse to adoption or having a non-member of the relationship agree to aid in the creation of a child. It is far better for a child to remain in an orphanage than run the risk of being warped for life by the presence of two fathers. Homophobia isn't beyond conservatism, nor is it only found within conservatism. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||
yes |
Total Seats: 0 | ||||
no |
Total Seats: 500 | ||||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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