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Bill: Carrington Healthcare Equality Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Catholic Workers Union
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2290
Description[?]:
| -Carrington Healthcare Equality Act- An Act to Fully Incorporate All Health Providers Under the Public Domain. Section 1: No man, no woman, and no child should have the right to better care because of a superior financial position: ---A. All private health clinics be closed. ---B. Healthcare workers currently working in private clinics be offered positions in public positions. ---C. Increased funds be allocated to the Ministry of Health and Social Services to reorganize healthcare facilities across Telamon. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Health care policy.
Old value:: There is a free public health care system and a small number of private clinics, which are heavily regulated to ensure they treat their patients well and provide good care.
Current: Health care is entirely public and free; private clinics are banned.
Proposed: Health care is entirely public and free; private clinics are banned.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 07:52:29, September 26, 2006 CET | From | Telamon Royalist Party | To | Debating the Carrington Healthcare Equality Act |
| Message | We can see the benefits of this. We are in favour. Please, bring this to a vote. |
| Date | 10:27:35, September 26, 2006 CET | From | United Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Carrington Healthcare Equality Act |
| Message | Once again, we will not support this. We believe in patient choice and this removes this. Obviously we are in favour of government making contributions to those on low incomes who seek essential treatment in the private sector, just as we favour providing contributions to allow bright low income students to go to private schools |
| Date | 13:17:45, September 26, 2006 CET | From | Catholic Workers Union | To | Debating the Carrington Healthcare Equality Act |
| Message | Your platform is one of patronage, not justice. |
| Date | 13:42:59, September 26, 2006 CET | From | United Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Carrington Healthcare Equality Act |
| Message | If by justice you mean everyone recieving substandard public education then no we're not for that. But we don't agree that our platform is patronage. For we want everyone to have access to the best possible services. We feel that the private and voluntary sectors can provide better service than government and we should work with them to ensure that those who cannot afford to pay have their fees be it for school or medical treatment paid for them by way of a mixture of government grants and scholarships etc. from the private institutions involved. |
| Date | 14:20:37, September 26, 2006 CET | From | Páirtí Sóisialach | To | Debating the Carrington Healthcare Equality Act |
| Message | IADP, why do you have it out for people who have a larger income than you? Its not their fault that their smarter and more industrious than you. As I recall, your founder was a simple old farmer from one of our hick provinces near the border of Portuguese-town. I believe in a national health service for the poor, needy and uninsured. If you allow private clinics for those who can afford it, the public sector does not have to provide for the same people. Thus, everyone could get the care they need twice as fast if private clinics remain open. Leave it to the IADP to double waiting times and quadruple the NHS burden on government. I urge people to come to their senses and vote against this proposal. |
| Date | 03:33:33, September 27, 2006 CET | From | Catholic Workers Union | To | Debating the Carrington Healthcare Equality Act |
| Message | "Our opponents continually lambast the poor quality of government services, and look to private alternatives to shirk the public responsibility of providing an equal and excellent healthcare system to all our people. Forgive us if we see this opposition as a vote of no confidence on the part of our right wing opponents in the capability and ingenuity of the Commonwealth of Telamon. For in a democracy, is it not from the people that we as administrators derive our just power to govern? And if the people can not choose effective administrators to provide public services which morally ought to be provided by the community as a whole, is that not a damning indictment of the people of Telamon as a whole? We apologize to the opposition parties to our right, but we do not share your lack of confidence in the good judgement of our fellow Telamonites. We are confident that they have chosen superb administrators in the IADP and the Royalist Party, and we intend to repay the people in kind with excellent administration. Our public hospitals and schools will be the best in Terra, and all men, women and children will benefit from them. We do not seek to eliminate private alternatives because we are envious of the wealth of the top 1%. We want to make these services public because it is a moral imperative for society to care for the sick and teach our children together, and because we do not support the supposed "right" of the well-to-do to pay for what may amount to "better" care in private clinics which can pay for "better" doctors. If all clinics are public, than all doctors serve rich and poor alike. And by being public, no clinic can discriminate on any basis in treating those in need. Our differences boil down to a fundamentally different understanding of society. Where you see the opportunity to make a profit off of treating the sick, we see the obligation to provide equal care regardless of financial background." -Ann Richards President |
| Date | 11:36:33, September 27, 2006 CET | From | United Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Carrington Healthcare Equality Act |
| Message | The Telamon National Health Service is a bureacratic swamp which eats up public money without ever showing tangible results. President Richards or the Minister for Health may delude themselves into thinking that they administrate the NHS and that all their policies are implemented. They may delude themselves into thinking that central control is a wonderful thing. But it is not. The NHS management is full of unelected bureacratic pen pushers whose only concern is to protect their job and government salary. That is why so much of the money pumped in to the health service goes on paying wages and not on buying new equipment which is desperately needed. Government targets and central control forces doctors and nurses to spend hours filling out forms and paper work rather than tending to patients needs. They want and need to be caring for patients 24 hours a day, not being turned into yet more bureacrats. This government may delude itself into believing that it knows exactly what every patient wants, and that it can deliver that centrally. But the truth is that this NHS is not geared to the patient, but it is geared to government, to bureacracy. We say that it is time to free our hospitals, as it is time to free our schools, from this centralised monolith. It is time to make our hospitals independent and to allow them to run and administrate themselves on a day to day basis, free from central government interference in every minute detail. To give doctors and nurses the freedom to treat patients and to get on with their job and to allow patient choice in choosing the best hospital for them. We believe that the best way to accomplish this is through harnessing the power of the private sector. Using privte investment and private know how to transform our health system from a bureacratic monolith to and efficient and effective system geared towards patients needs and able to provide world class treatment at world class facilities for all Telamonians. We are not for a moment advocating that government should get out of the health sector altogether, just that government should do what it is best at - the setting of policy and providing of oversight and regulation, rather than day to day administration. Government in this case should be about seeing the bigger picture and about ensuring that world class service is being provided, not interfering in every minute detail of day to day management. Government would still be here to ensure that world class service was being provided and to prevent excessive profits by organisations. Government would ensure that all citizens can access the healthcare they need through paying for it for those on low incomes. Whilst the private sector provides investment and know how as well as competition, driving down prices, driving up service quality and ensuring that patients have real choice in healthcare and education. In short Honourable Members President Richards is right to suggest that it is about two different visions of society. Hers is of monolithic centralised state control delivering poor service to the people of Telamon whilst enriching the bureacrats. She will not loosen state control because she does not trust our citizens to run hospitals. Well Honourable Members, we do. We want to see voluntary and not for profit organisations and local communities taking control of their hospitals and working in partnership with government and the private sector to provide high quality service for all William Lamb UCA Parliamentary Leader |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes |
Total Seats: 177 | ||
| no |
Total Seats: 123 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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