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Bill: Military Policy Reform Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Liberal Alliance
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2291
Description[?]:
| This bill if passed would allow the export of conventional arms to countries which the Telamonian government feels is appropriate (mainly our allies) in order to facilitate cooperation with them, with the safeguard that each sale must first be approved by government. Secondly, it would also abolish national service which we believe is outdated and unnecessary. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Current: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve a term in the military.
Proposed: There shall be no mandatory military or civilian national service.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the export of weapons to other nations.
Old value:: The government does not allow arms to be exported.
Current: The government must approve all arms sales on a case by case basis.
Proposed: The government must approve all arms sales on a case by case basis.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 11:47:49, September 29, 2006 CET | From | Telamon Royalist Party | To | Debating the Military Policy Reform Bill |
| Message | We are going to abstain from voting on this for now, as we're not entirely decided about either of these issues. We'd like to hear arguments from both sides. |
| Date | 13:21:49, September 29, 2006 CET | From | United Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Military Policy Reform Bill |
| Message | Well, firstly, national service is outdated and is a violation of peoples human rights, to force them to engage in military activity or in related civilian activities. Pay is not good and we personally as a party would much rather develop wholly professional, well equipped and trained armed forces rather relying on what amounts to conscription Secondly, I seem to recall that Telamon was a major arms manufacturer and we should be able to supply weapons to those states that the government sees fit - usually one would assume our allies. Of course this requires government oversight and it is right that government should approve all sales on a case by case basis to ensure that we know exactly who is selling what to whom |
| Date | 21:16:45, September 29, 2006 CET | From | Catholic Workers Union | To | Debating the Military Policy Reform Bill |
| Message | "Everyone has a duty to serve the nation that provides them such excellent protection and insurance. It's especially important in this time of international instability to have a large and trained standing army, as well as an "army" of civilians spreading our message across Terra in the form of good actions and compassion. This bill will dissolve these key tenents of our foreign policy. Not to mention the awful implications of arms sales to other nations to further a global paranoia." -Kristina Clauft Minister of Foreign Affairs |
| Date | 23:51:01, September 29, 2006 CET | From | United Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Military Policy Reform Bill |
| Message | We disagree, a small highly trained and higly disciplined volunteer army is of far more use to us than a ramshackled conscript one filled with poorly motivated people who would rather be doing anything than national service |
| Date | 01:10:50, September 30, 2006 CET | From | Telamon Royalist Party | To | Debating the Military Policy Reform Bill |
| Message | We see the wisdom in Minister Clauft's statement. We vote no. |
| Date | 01:24:50, September 30, 2006 CET | From | Catholic Workers Union | To | Debating the Military Policy Reform Bill |
| Message | Excellent. And if they'd rather not serve in the military, UCA, they can serve in the civilian service spreading the gospel of good deeds. |
| Date | 12:34:21, September 30, 2006 CET | From | United Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Military Policy Reform Bill |
| Message | We still don't agree that forcing people into national service be it military or civilian is desirable and we hold to our views that a volunteer force is infinitely more effective than a conscript one |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes |
Total Seats: 123 | ||
| no |
Total Seats: 177 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Any RP law granting extraordinary "emergency powers" or dictator-like powers to a government must be passed by at least a 2/3rds majority, but (like all RP laws) may always be overturned by a simple majority vote of the legislature. |
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