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Bill: Devolved Education Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: True Valruzians
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2296
Description[?]:
| Giving schools greater control over their own affairs. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Policy concerning racial segregation in educational institutions.
Old value:: Segregation is illegal in all educational institutions.
Current: Segregation is illegal in all educational institutions.
Proposed: Public educational institutions cannot be segregated, private institutions can choose to apply a policy of segregation.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Sexual education in schools.
Old value:: Schools have an obligation to give sexual education at some point in puberty.
Current: Schools have an obligation to give sexual education at some point in puberty.
Proposed: This decision is up to the schools themselves without government regulation.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The teacher's right to discipline children.
Old value:: Teachers are forbidden from striking children and may only use non-contact discipline (detention, expulsion etc).
Current: Teachers are forbidden from striking children and may only use non-contact discipline (detention, expulsion etc).
Proposed: Discipline levels are set by schools.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:00:37, October 07, 2006 CET | From |  United People's Party | To | Debating the Devolved Education Bill |
| Message | Strongly opposed to all three articles. Lets not forget, this is racial segregation, why should private schools be allowed to be racist? Sexual education is extremely important, by having it taught it dispells myths about sex, pregnancy and STDs, without it we'll go back to the days when some people thought only gay people got AIDS or that you can't get pregnant the first time you have sex. Teachers are meant to be people children can trust, not people who beat them. These measures are being proposed as "devolving" education, but it is only because the TV opposes the ways things are now and hopes some schools will change to what they want. It isn't about devolution or choice but about getting what they want. |
| Date | 14:22:14, October 07, 2006 CET | From | True Valruzians | To | Debating the Devolved Education Bill |
| Message | Private schools control their own selection, they can choose to be racist. Why shouldn't children be educated with people they want to be educated with. Sex education is better taught by parents, rather than by some leftist nurse. Not all children mature at the same age, to have a universal standard of sex education is ignorant, as some children are not ready for it, and for some children the education comes too late. Furthermore if you are not gay or black or a drug user chances of getting aids in nonexistent, lets not pretend its otherwise. Isn't that a form of choice? These measures are proposed as devolution because shockingly they are devolution. Naturally with almost all Bills they are things we want to get passed, that is hardly shocking news. |
| Date | 03:27:49, October 09, 2006 CET | From | United People's Party | To | Debating the Devolved Education Bill |
| Message | Your comment about AIDS is deeply offensive and ignorant. I have heard the homophobic argument about gay people, because they are too stupid to use protection obviously, but black people? What tired prejudice does that come from? Also I think a school that says its ok to segregate on grounds of race is not really a school, schools are meant to educate, enlighten, not force prejudices on people. As for sex education, people who oppose this in schools are generally frightened of sex or want people to live by their rules. They don't want people having sex, as if it is something to be ashamed of, and think that by telling children about how to have safe sex is encouraging them. People have always had sex, they always will, they might as well be educated. |
| Date | 13:16:06, October 09, 2006 CET | From | True Valruzians | To | Debating the Devolved Education Bill |
| Message | Have you checked the statistics with regards to AID's? Homosexuals and blacks are far more likely to catch AID's than heterosexual whites, that is not ignorance, nor is it prejudice, its a truth. Why do you need to have a mix of races to educate and enlighten? You simply don't, and it is ignorant to suggest otherwise. Yes, they might as well be educated, by their parents. It is not for society to force a universal value on children, it is a matter that is for the child and the childs parents. I fail to see why schools should have this mandate to teach sex education. |
| Date | 14:19:09, October 09, 2006 CET | From | United People's Party | To | Debating the Devolved Education Bill |
| Message | By not mixing races you are saying they are different and need to be separated, that perhaps one is less clever or can't be trusted, would corrupt the other, there is no justification for it and it is simply racism that you are trying to dress up as choice. I absolutely believe that a society that separates its people on the basis of race is not enlightened and is not truly civilised, so it is the same for a school. The reason you don't like sex education is because it infringes on your beliefs. By not teaching it in schools you are forcing a value on people, at least with education people get to know the truth. |
| Date | 00:39:29, October 10, 2006 CET | From | True Valruzians | To | Debating the Devolved Education Bill |
| Message | By teaching it you are forcing a value on people. With choice, people get the truth. Education is never impartial, how can it be labelled the only truth? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 164 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 307 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 29 |
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