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Bill: SLP - Proposal for Secularism
Details
Submitted by[?]: Social Liberal Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2296
Description[?]:
| This proposal, like all other future proposals from the Social Liberal Party from now on, will be debated first until a majority consensus is reached. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change
Taxation of religious institutions.
Old value:: No religions are taxed.
Current: Recognized religions are not taxed.
Proposed: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: The government leaves this decision up to the schools themselves.
Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are encouraged.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Current: There is an official state religion, and membership is mandatory.
Proposed: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:07:15, October 08, 2006 CET | From | Social Liberal Party | To | Debating the SLP - Proposal for Secularism |
| Message | "The Republic of Lusitania and it's people both, need this reform like the air it breathes. The separation of church from state wast the single most important factor to the civilizing of the western world, since the enlightenment era until present day." - Dirk Verhofstadt. Presidente da República da Lusitânia. |
| Date | 14:09:18, October 08, 2006 CET | From | People's Party | To | Debating the SLP - Proposal for Secularism |
| Message | Estas medidas são um desrespeito total pela liberdade religiosa. O que o SLP propõe é a instauração de uma DITADURA da laicidade. Afinal, acaba por propor o que tanto critíca. |
| Date | 14:39:44, October 08, 2006 CET | From | People's Party | To | Debating the SLP - Proposal for Secularism |
| Message | Pelo exposto acima achamos que o "lucro" das religiões não deve ser submetido a taxas. Isso é "roubar". |
| Date | 15:39:37, October 08, 2006 CET | From | Social Liberal Party | To | Debating the SLP - Proposal for Secularism |
| Message | "Separation of church from state is an essential requirement for true religious freedom. The SLP fails to see how it could be any other way. These proposals do not enforce secularism on anyone. By forbidding teachers to lead prayers in public schools we are ensuring that the religious beliefs of each and every individual students are not squashed and overridden with a teacher's religious views. Teacher's are obliged to keep their faith to themselves and maintain a neutral religious environment in schools. Those who want prayers to be recited in schools can opt for religious schools pertaining to their particular religious denomination. Taxing religion is simply the only to establish equal status to that of any other organisation. We will not allow companies such as 'Diet Pepsi and Jesus Limited.' to continue to operate their business under the cloak of religion. All organisation religious or otherwise must pay their fair share of taxes. Charitable donations are naturally exempt from taxes." - Guy Verhofstadt, Leader of the opposition. |
| Date | 16:47:59, October 08, 2006 CET | From | People's Party | To | Debating the SLP - Proposal for Secularism |
| Message | There are NO public schools in Lusitânia. Our Government privatizised the Education System. As we believe that Christian values are inherent to our society we believe that schools should have the right to decide whether do they make teacher led-prayers or not. And so the people have the right to chose the school their child will be considering that. What the SLP is proposing is and imposition os Secularism over the People. There is SEPARATION between the Church and the State in the sense that membership of the State Religion is completely VOLUNTARY. You fail to see that. We will not reach any consensus this way. |
| Date | 17:38:25, October 08, 2006 CET | From | Social Liberal Party | To | Debating the SLP - Proposal for Secularism |
| Message | "There are NO public schools in Lusitania." - Popular Party. "There WILL be very soon." - Matt Groening, Social Liberal Education Specialist. |
| Date | 09:12:31, October 09, 2006 CET | From | Green Workers Party | To | Debating the SLP - Proposal for Secularism |
| Message | The GWP enthusiastically supports this measure to take our public schools out of the hands of the Jesuits and removing the sinister hand of religion from politics. Our aim is a completely secular society - we say si. |
| Date | 17:25:48, October 09, 2006 CET | From | Social Liberal Party | To | Debating the SLP - Proposal for Secularism |
| Message | To the polls gentlemen! |
| Date | 21:10:53, October 09, 2006 CET | From | Libertarian Party | To | Debating the SLP - Proposal for Secularism |
| Message | We abstain because we think religions should not be treated as companies. That's, I have to say, stupid. In this matter I agree with what the PP have said: it is stealing! |
| Date | 22:05:51, October 09, 2006 CET | From | Social Liberal Party | To | Debating the SLP - Proposal for Secularism |
| Message | There will never be a civilized world without taxes. Never has been and never will be. Libertarianism is even more utopian as communism in this regard. The Social Liberal Party will not relieve taxes for corporations that operate under the guise of religions." - Guy Verhofstadt. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 188 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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