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Bill: Mental Health Reform Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: New Theta

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: April 2301

Description[?]:

We wish to put an end to government-funded psychiatric-affiliated practices as Psychiatry is inherently unscientific and is not supported by any conclusive scientific research.

Pharmaceutical companies sponsor research, especially when it revolves around the efficacy of their own psychiatric drug being tested. Results are, more often than not, biased to cater to the agenda of the company. A drug company sales rep will then write a medical paper on this biased research. The drug company will then pay a medical doctor (a psychiatrist or "neuropsychiatrist") to use his/her name as the real author of the paper, so as to give this "research" credibility. This practice is wide-spread and is known as "Ghost Writing". It is total junkscience.

It is time that we put a stop to these practices and bring science back to mental healing. We propose that no subject should have a monopoly on mental health, as psychiatry does, and that people should be free to choose the health care provider they so desire without fear of being fraudulently labelled (with nonsensical, unscientific "disorders" such as "ADHD", "Shopping Disorder", "Maths Disorder", and so forth) and treated with harmful drugs that are no more effective as a treatment than a mere placebo or sugar pill.

PROPOSAL: Stop governmental funding to any psychiatric-affiliated public health practitioner, organisation or group.

PROPOSAL: Invest in alternative mental healing research with less emphasis on harmful, mind-altering drugs (such as Yoj)

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date20:23:56, October 13, 2006 CET
FromFascist Zealotry League
ToDebating the Mental Health Reform Act
MessageAs filthy moneymen, we applaud your efforts to free another enterprise from some of the shackles of government regulation but remain wary about the path down which you seem to be heading. To control psychiatry after (if) this bill is passed, your only option would be to ban private health clinics completely and we would of course have a major problem with that.

The second proposal is interesting and for that reason alone we are prepared to support this bill as it stands, but not without reservations for the future of private health.

Date21:55:04, October 13, 2006 CET
FromOrder of Valtiel
ToDebating the Mental Health Reform Act
Message"This bill is a travesty and yet another example of why religion should not be allowed to exist, This bill was created by a political party which believes in Neo-Scientology which charges at least $20,000 for a story about a space alien named Lord Xenu who lived 75 Million Years ago and is considered to be the source of all of humanities woes.

This group has no real scientific credibility and should be laughed out of town. It's that simple." ~ Dr. Hari Seldon

Date14:24:55, October 15, 2006 CET
FromNew Theta
ToDebating the Mental Health Reform Act
MessageWhat is "$"?

Date15:55:54, October 15, 2006 CET
FromOrder of Valtiel
ToDebating the Mental Health Reform Act
MessageIC: "$" is a symbol used by some Dranian economists as an international symbol for money.

OOC: Ha Ha Ha....

Date17:04:32, October 15, 2006 CET
FromPlaid Gyfreithiol Cymru
ToDebating the Mental Health Reform Act
MessageWe will not support this Scientology pushed bill. What we may consider however is a bill taking the responsibility for the banning/legalisation of Yoj away from the Health Ministry and into the Assembly itself.

Date20:44:47, October 15, 2006 CET
FromFascist Zealotry League
ToDebating the Mental Health Reform Act
MessageSurely the Health Minister has to have government approval before banning or legalising anything anyway?

Date21:34:51, October 15, 2006 CET
FromPlaid Gyfreithiol Cymru
ToDebating the Mental Health Reform Act
MessageThe Health Minister is part of the government. Once elected he/she doesnt need anyones approval as it currently stands.

Date22:18:58, October 15, 2006 CET
FromFascist Zealotry League
ToDebating the Mental Health Reform Act
MessageHmmm. Are you saying that the Dranish government is divided into multi-sectional Dictatorships and that anything goes within each department? Surely the Prime Minister has the final say on any such proposals?

Date22:35:06, October 15, 2006 CET
FromPlaid Gyfreithiol Cymru
ToDebating the Mental Health Reform Act
MessageHe does. But the Prime Minister does not control the Assembly. I'll give you an example, FTP become the largest party and propose a cabinet with themselve as Prime Minister and Health minister. Even though the majority of the Assembly (i.e. everyone but for FTP and the CZL) would oppose Yoj, it would be legalised. Bringing the issue under the control of the assembly would ensure that only when the pro-Yoj movement gets a proper mandate would the drug be legalized.

Date03:29:18, October 16, 2006 CET
FromOrder of Valtiel
ToDebating the Mental Health Reform Act
MessageBut the anti-Yoj mandate only has the mandate of a part that only promotes the issues of a single race group and the other party promotes the will of a money-hungry cult.

That isn't much of a real democratic mandate.

Date08:55:30, October 16, 2006 CET
FromPlaid Gyfreithiol Cymru
ToDebating the Mental Health Reform Act
MessageWhile the pro-Yoj mandate is madeup of a party who receives millions of DRA from the drug's producers and a part who wishes everything and anything to be for sale.

Date20:36:57, October 16, 2006 CET
FromOrder of Valtiel
ToDebating the Mental Health Reform Act
MessageSo would you say that democracy does not exist in Dranland at all?

Date20:52:10, October 16, 2006 CET
FromFascist Zealotry League
ToDebating the Mental Health Reform Act
Message[ooc] If your plans succeed PGC, you will be seriously affecting one of the main goals of this game, i.e. attempting to become Prime Minister. If a player has control of a certain ministry as well as being the PM and is then possibly prevented from using those powers to RP a certain event through because of the need for a mandate, what is the point of attempting to gain a place on the cabinet in the first place? A player needs to earn the trust of his coalition before he is accepted as PM anyway so questioning everything he wants to do afterwards is just plain daft imho. I am aware that what you intend will be more democratic but we must be careful not to remove the essential ingredient "fun" from the mix. It is a game afterall.[/ooc]

Date12:26:31, October 17, 2006 CET
FromPlaid Gyfreithiol Cymru
ToDebating the Mental Health Reform Act
MessageOOC As far as i can see everything is in the hands of the cabinet unless the assembly has expressly taken control of the issue, either through in-game proposals or with a worded bill.

That would leave the government with control of pretty much everything, but if they go against the will of the assembly on a contreversial issue, the assembly can try and rein them in.

Date16:14:18, October 17, 2006 CET
FromOrder of Valtiel
ToDebating the Mental Health Reform Act
MessageOOC: Unless of course the Justice department states that your little Anti-Yoj act is Unconstitutional in the first place...

Date21:23:39, October 17, 2006 CET
FromPlaid Gyfreithiol Cymru
ToDebating the Mental Health Reform Act
MessageThere are two ways a democracy like this works. The first is a written constitution (e.g. US) which surpases everything else. The second is a so called "unwritten constitution" which consists of numerous bills and convensions (e.g. UK). Since the Dranian constitution can be changed by an Act of the Assembly (e.g. changing the number of seats) it cannot be said to have a fixed written constitution.

Therefore, since the game mechanics allows the Assembly the power to change the constitution Drnaland must have an UK style constitution where the legislature has supremacy. In other words whatever the Assembly passess becomes law, if it conflicts with the constitution then the constitituion is changed.

Date22:12:49, October 17, 2006 CET
FromFascist Zealotry League
ToDebating the Mental Health Reform Act
MessageYes, but it's the Prime Minister's party that releases the legislation to be voted on. Hence my concern about your attempts to limit the IG PM's powers.

Date22:42:10, October 17, 2006 CET
FromPlaid Gyfreithiol Cymru
ToDebating the Mental Health Reform Act
MessageActually all and every party proposes legislation in the UK. The only difference is that in the UK Parliament the government has control over how much time is spent debating and voting on bills, therefore securing that most other parties bills don't get far.

Date22:52:12, October 17, 2006 CET
FromFascist Zealotry League
ToDebating the Mental Health Reform Act
MessageI stand corrected.

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