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Bill: Relax gambling laws

Details

Submitted by[?]: Radical Centrists

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: September 2040

Description[?]:

The legality of gambling is a matter of local governments.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

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FromLeviathan Party
ToDebating the Relax gambling laws
MessageThe Leviathan Party is against this bill. With gambling inevitably comes organized crime, and the last thing we need in this country is to provide more havens for criminals to launder money and create new criminal enterprises.

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FromLabour Party
ToDebating the Relax gambling laws
MessageUndecided. The RLP accepts that there is a issue of personal freedom involved here, but is also mindful of the counter argument put forward by the Leviathan Party.

We're not really sure that gambling provides any social benefit anyway.

We're open to being convinced though.

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FromSocial Republican Party
ToDebating the Relax gambling laws
MessageThe SP is undecided. Although Gambling should no be illegal, it should not be legal, as it creates crime. Even if it were up to the local governments, it would still create islands of crime. However, we would not restrict, say, a equal, non-'house' style of gaming house, seeing as that would be infringing on our citizen's rights. But seeing the nightmare of legislating that, we are against this bill.

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From
ToDebating the Relax gambling laws
MessageThe Freedom Now party supports this bill. Without legalized gambling, the more dangerous illegal gambling will set in and create more crime. It is all about softening the blow. Legal or not, gambling will happen.

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FromLeviathan Party
ToDebating the Relax gambling laws
MessageBut only legalized gambling allows organized crime the ability to launder money and turn the profits of criminal enterprise into legitimate earnings. Whenever a bill like this presents itself, law enforcement has always come out against it; shouldn't we listen to the people on the front lines of the battle for justice when we consider whether legalized gambling is worth it?

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FromRadical Centrists
ToDebating the Relax gambling laws
MessageI'll wait for the FNP to return before moving this to vote.

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From Protectorate Party
ToDebating the Relax gambling laws
MessageIf local governments feel that the gain is worth the risk of crime, they should be allowed to legalize it. I further agree with the freedom now party that the gambling takes place and without it being in the open unsavory groups will gain control.

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From Protectorate Party
ToDebating the Relax gambling laws
MessageIf local governments feel that the gain is worth the risk of crime, they should be allowed to legalize it. I further agree with the freedom now party that the gambling takes place and without it being in the open unsavory groups will gain control.

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FromLeviathan Party
ToDebating the Relax gambling laws
MessageSo when one community approves of gambling, but their neighbors don't, and the organized crime and gentrification spil over, it's still okay? Or has one community just walked all over the rights of another community?

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From
ToDebating the Relax gambling laws
MessageLegal gaming don't support organized crime. Illegal gaming does, since it creates money for shadowy people. That is why making it legal is good.

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FromLeviathan Party
ToDebating the Relax gambling laws
MessageThat statement runs contrary to known experiences with legalized gambling. Who established and ran the casinos in Las Vegas or Atlantic city? Organized crime. How did they launder their money? Gambling profits. Illegal gambling has always been a fraction of the volume of legal gambling; keeping gambling illegal decreases the total amount of gambling done, and prevents those running these relatively harmless operations from laundering money for anyone.

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FromLeviathan Party
ToDebating the Relax gambling laws
MessageAnd franky, Telemon politicans have no place attempting to dictate policy in the Malivian parliament.

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FromRadical Centrists
ToDebating the Relax gambling laws
MessageAgreed. I'll be putting this to vote after the election.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 23

no
     

Total Seats: 72

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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