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Bill: National Pension Plan
Details
Submitted by[?]: National Progressive Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2076
Description[?]:
| It is important to take care of the poor and the old. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system.
Old value:: The state does not operate a pension system. Individuals must save up for retirement on their own.
Current: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Proposed: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:49:25, July 02, 2005 CET | From | National Progressive Party | To | Debating the National Pension Plan |
| Message | It is important to hear both sides of this argument. I will not put this to a vote until I hear from both sides. Tell me what you all think. |
| Date | 05:54:34, July 03, 2005 CET | From |  Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United | To | Debating the National Pension Plan |
| Message | Nah. Better left to private. I dont trust the government with my money. |
| Date | 07:50:37, July 03, 2005 CET | From | Rationalist Party | To | Debating the National Pension Plan |
| Message | Nationalized pension would provide a basic income for those who have reached retirement age. If they have invested in another plan then they can have more money. This plan would make sure we didn't have seniors living on the street or starving. |
| Date | 12:08:35, July 03, 2005 CET | From | Telemon Lutheran Party | To | Debating the National Pension Plan |
| Message | I think this is a good idea because it is a smart and safe way to ensure that everyone has some money to live on when they retire. If it was left up to the individual, they may not consider it a nesessity and wait until they are older, thus loosing out on money they could have saved from an early age. |
| Date | 19:36:48, July 03, 2005 CET | From | Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United | To | Debating the National Pension Plan |
| Message | Then that is their dumb fault. If you are smart you start saving as soon as you can. |
| Date | 00:40:35, July 04, 2005 CET | From | United Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the National Pension Plan |
| Message | We think that private pension systems are probably best in the long run, though we concede that there is a problem with people thinking about therir retirement and investing in ti therefore although possibly illiberal we would advocate compulsory private penison schemes to ensure that people do provide for their future |
| Date | 01:51:58, July 04, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party of Telamon | To | Debating the National Pension Plan |
| Message | no, private pensions charge higher fees, and have higher commisions. So they wouldnt work better (thank you industry super fund commercial :) !) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 143 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 45 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 62 |
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