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Bill: No Pay for Drain
Details
Submitted by[?]: Conservative Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2310
Description[?]:
Prisoners are in prison because they have rejected society. What kind of message does it send when society rewards them for this? If they do not like society's laws, then they have no right to its benefits. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Education in prisons.
Old value:: An education plan for prisoners is provided to improve rehabilitation.
Current: An education plan for prisoners is provided to improve rehabilitation.
Proposed: Prisoners are not given any form of education.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 10:26:47, November 06, 2006 CET | From | National Party of Vensism | To | Debating the No Pay for Drain |
Message | so when they come back in the community they can't do anything anymore? That means what they will have to do to get money is ehm.. go back into their criminal behaviour. By giving them education in prison you will give them an option to do something else instead of beeing a criminal again. And it will lower the chance that they get back into prison again. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||
yes |
Total Seats: 68 | |||
no | Total Seats: 87 | |||
abstain | Total Seats: 95 |
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