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Bill: Pension Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: International Socialist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2077
Description[?]:
| We believe that the elderly have, through working throughout their adult life, earned the right to a comfortable retirement. Therefor the ISP propose a public pension that will rival that available in other countries. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system.
Old value:: The state does not operate a pension system. Individuals must save up for retirement on their own.
Current: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Proposed: The state operates a compulsory, public pension system.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 11:22:11, July 05, 2005 CET | From | Plinio's United Followers | To | Debating the Pension Bill |
| Message | Public pension systems have been the bane of economies all over the world, and as our population ages, this burden will be even greater. |
| Date | 08:41:38, July 06, 2005 CET | From | International Socialist Party | To | Debating the Pension Bill |
| Message | Public pensions have been a safety net for some of the poorest and disadvantaged people throughout the world. |
| Date | 08:44:30, July 06, 2005 CET | From | Millennial Salvation Front | To | Debating the Pension Bill |
| Message | As our population ages, a public pension system will grow ever more expensive and unwieldy. Maintaining the status quo will allow people to invest for their retirement without fear of being burdened by government bureaucracy. |
| Date | 01:40:52, July 07, 2005 CET | From | International Socialist Party | To | Debating the Pension Bill |
| Message | Why do people assume that we are facing "an aging population". This country does not subsidise contraception, does not allow abortions, and has no health service. These are conditions which, rather than leading to an aging population, would lead to the polar opposite of a increasingly younger population. |
| Date | 05:16:52, July 07, 2005 CET | From | Millennial Salvation Front | To | Debating the Pension Bill |
| Message | Just because we have maintained some semblance of public morality in this country, does not mean that our population is skewed towards the young. Nor does it mean that, as our free market economy continues to grow, that an aging workforce will not become a problem. Socialist utopias are all well and good, but they hardly work in the real world. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 5 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 192 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 5 |
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