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Bill: Criminal Proceedings and Enforcement Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Alderdath Profikaki Farsisi Malfikek
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2319
Description[?]:
| If a person has the the financial resources with which to defend themselves, then the taxpayers should not fund their defence. If they are found innnocent, then a reasonable sum could be refunded to them. The very notion of a police force is an unnaceptable infringment on the civil liberties of the people. No longer should a government be recognised by its monopooly on legal violence. The concept of "the police" has been accepted for far to long, that we need police to enforce our laws, shows that either we have too many laws, or the people are unwilling to abide by them. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government provision of legal aid to the accused.
Old value:: Legal representation for defendants in criminal trials is paid for by the state.
Current: Legal representation for defendants in criminal trials is paid for by the state for defendants with low incomes.
Proposed: Legal representation is never paid for by the state.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the organization of police/law enforcement
Old value:: There is a national police department funded by the national government and there are local police departments, funded by local governments.
Current: There is a national police department funded by the national government and there are local police departments, funded by local governments.
Proposed: The government does not operate or fund any police.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 11:24:30, November 22, 2006 CET | From | Demkratteja Lebraleiju Kundratatka | To | Debating the Criminal Proceedings and Enforcement Act |
| Message | I might support the Bill, however i do not like the fact that the Police is not funded by the Federal Government. I understand deregulation, but selling out our essential services is just ridiculous, why is there a point to Government if there is nothing for us regulate over, too many things to regulate, yes that is a fair assumption, however getting rid of services like Police, is just ridiculous, what is next the streets of Kundrati runned by Criminals, and officials have to pay protection money for their own protection. We will not vote for Amendment 2, unless there was a way we could still be guarenteed a transparent police force, i.e. have the local or state municipalities run it, or have the Federal government contract out the services? |
| Date | 11:27:06, November 22, 2006 CET | From | Alderdath Profikaki Farsisi Malfikek | To | Debating the Criminal Proceedings and Enforcement Act |
| Message | I would support the idea of contracting out the service, as long as its remit was severely limited. We will seek the opinion of other parties before deciding on ammending the act. |
| Date | 11:31:39, November 22, 2006 CET | From | Demkratteja Lebraleiju Kundratatka | To | Debating the Criminal Proceedings and Enforcement Act |
| Message | Am i being too political, as i do know this is a game, i am just trying to act like a politician in parliament, if i seem to be doing it with too much passion just tell me to back off :) |
| Date | 11:52:40, November 22, 2006 CET | From | Alderdath Profikaki Farsisi Malfikek | To | Debating the Criminal Proceedings and Enforcement Act |
| Message | You are doing exactly the right thing. Players are aware that everyone is acting as a politician in the nations parliament. anger if shown is ussualy feigned. The political debates are the best part of the game as i see it, so keep it up. |
| Date | 17:14:23, November 22, 2006 CET | From | Union of Work-Shy Elements | To | Debating the Criminal Proceedings and Enforcement Act |
| Message | We could possibly support the first article, but certainly not the second. The Kundrati Union is a nation of laws, these laws must be enforced by an accountable authority. What you seem to be suggesting is a state of anarchy - survival of the fittest. We don’t support the contracting out of policing either. |
| Date | 02:49:42, November 23, 2006 CET | From | Alderdath Rabrati Konciralati Erradikati | To | Debating the Criminal Proceedings and Enforcement Act |
| Message | Clearly the APFM prefers anarchy to order. We find this policy abhorrent in the extreme! |
| Date | 04:54:13, November 23, 2006 CET | From | Askaleja Sekekeiju Kundratatka | To | Debating the Criminal Proceedings and Enforcement Act |
| Message | Why does one automatically assume that if it's commercial, it's easily manipulated and is unable to work? As this stands, it'll put the onus upon individuals themselves to assume responsibilities for their own life and future, as compared to some giant entity which is the police. |
| Date | 11:07:25, November 23, 2006 CET | From | Alderdath Profikaki Farsisi Malfikek | To | Debating the Criminal Proceedings and Enforcement Act |
| Message | The police are an arm of the state, and therefore inherently political. Commercial entities would be more independent and representative of the people, it could be argued that this is more democratic.If communities voted upon which contractor to hire for the service; the contractor would be forced to consider their views, or risk not gaining the contract. |
| Date | 12:12:07, November 23, 2006 CET | From | Demkratteja Lebraleiju Kundratatka | To | Debating the Criminal Proceedings and Enforcement Act |
| Message | We are opposed to such Anarchist view, commercial entities can also corrupt a police force, as if they don't like someone because they are commercial rivals, then they could do a false arrest and get away with it. People are smarter then people ,make them out to be, if there is a break in the system or loophole they would take it, through the proposal that you make all high class criminals would have to do is either buy them out or give a cash incentive. If the Police was run by the state least we know that the Police are transparent and incorrupt. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 76 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 225 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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