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Bill: Health Care Reform
Details
Submitted by[?]: Millennial Salvation Front
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2080
Description[?]:
| Now is the time to take steps to improve our country's health care system. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Health care policy.
Old value:: There is a public health care system, but private clinics are allowed.
Current: There is a public health care system, but private clinics are allowed.
Proposed: Health care is private, but is paid for by the state for people with low incomes.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:56:50, July 06, 2005 CET | From | Plinio's United Followers | To | Debating the Health Care Reform |
| Message | Agree with it |
| Date | 22:26:51, July 06, 2005 CET | From | Fantastic Party | To | Debating the Health Care Reform |
| Message | The free market cannot be relied upon to deliver effective health care. Those countries that do not maintain general public healthcare show below average performance in almost every health measure. Without maintaining a public system consumers lack the professional information necessary to make correct descisions about health. Furthermore in a principally private system monopolies form over highly specialised skills and the public suffers. To allow this bill to pass is to allow a plummet in health and an increase in mortality rates nationwide. |
| Date | 20:20:34, July 07, 2005 CET | From | Millennial Salvation Front | To | Debating the Health Care Reform |
| Message | We challenge the Fantastic Party to demonstrate just where private health care provision has failed. As part of our portfolio in the Health Ministry, we have determined that this kind of public/private partnership system will be the best for Mordusia. Those able to pay for quality health care will get it, while those unable to pay will be helped by the government. This is better than having a bloated, inefficient "one size fits all" system, one that is paid for by the taxpayer. |
| Date | 02:18:08, July 08, 2005 CET | From | Fantastic Party | To | Debating the Health Care Reform |
| Message | Of course staying true to the fiction of the game is difficult but to cite a real-world example, the US consistently falls short in almost every category in the WHO assesments and operates one of the most private health service of all nations. Considering it's affluence to be ranked 37th in health service performance is dire compared against similarly developed European nations (that utilize public health care). |
| Date | 02:31:06, July 08, 2005 CET | From | Fantastic Party | To | Debating the Health Care Reform |
| Message | And how much subsidy is the MSF proposing? Will it be to merely the lowest income bracket? If so this will provide a disincentive to work . Will those that fall just above the threshold be expected to suffer if they incur particularly rare or expensive afflictions? Alternatively, will the implementation be sliding scale, on a case by case basis? If so you are entertaning a massive beauracracy far larger than any "bloated" public system. |
| Date | 21:02:58, July 11, 2005 CET | From | Millennial Salvation Front | To | Debating the Health Care Reform |
| Message | We dispute the claim that this improvement would create more bureaucracy. Private doctors and private practices will be able to provide quality health care without undue government interference, and the creation of a smaller agency to oversee the provision of treatment to the poor will be far less expensive than propping up the entire system through the taxpayers' money. Those able to pay for their health care should pay for it themselves. And people will pay, if it means that they will get better and cheaper medical assistance. |
| Date | 09:59:09, July 13, 2005 CET | From | Millennial Salvation Front | To | Debating the Health Care Reform |
| Message | Moving to a vote. This issue is too important to languish in perpetual debate. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 122 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 49 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 75 |
| Random fact: Particracy does not allow real-life fictional references (eg. Gandalf, Harry Potter, Luke Skywalker). |
| Random quote: "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it." - Upton Sinclair |