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Bill: A New Age For Capitalism
Details
Submitted by[?]: Neo-Libertarian Party of Kalistan
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2077
Description[?]:
| This bill gives Kalistan the infrastructure proven to provide the most wealth for the entire country. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government agricultural and farming subsidies policy.
Old value:: All agricultural operations are state-owned and operated.
Current: Strategic crops are produced on State owned farms. All other produce is left to the Private sector.
Proposed: The government allows local governments to craft agricultural subsidy policy.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The right to gamble.
Old value:: Gambling is illegal.
Current: Gambling is legal across the nation, no regulation whatsoever.
Proposed: The legality of gambling is a matter of local governments.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on industry and subsidies to industrial operations.
Old value:: All industry is owned and operated by the state.
Current: Certain industries are owned by the state, all others are under private ownership.
Proposed: The government does not intervene in the market nor provide any form of subsidies/relief to industries.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system.
Old value:: The state operates a compulsory, public pension system.
Current: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Proposed: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 12:19:55, July 06, 2005 CET | From | Neo-Libertarian Party of Kalistan | To | Debating the A New Age For Capitalism |
| Message | This bill MAY be too big, so we are willing to cut it to just the Agricultural Subsidy and Industry Ownership articles, and add the other articles to future bills. |
| Date | 12:42:43, July 06, 2005 CET | From | People's Front of Kalistan | To | Debating the A New Age For Capitalism |
| Message | Article 3 is not in our favour, why support them, when their plan of actions led them to bankruptcy? It could only be supported if the subdisizing (sp?) is only made in times of a crisis. |
| Date | 12:45:03, July 06, 2005 CET | From | Neo-Libertarian Party of Kalistan | To | Debating the A New Age For Capitalism |
| Message | Would you support the bill if we changed it to ''Nationalizing key industries that face bankrupcy''? We would prefer if we didn't subside industries at all, but that's more of a compromise measure. |
| Date | 12:48:53, July 06, 2005 CET | From | People's Front of Kalistan | To | Debating the A New Age For Capitalism |
| Message | We would also prefer no subsiding at all. |
| Date | 13:04:38, July 06, 2005 CET | From | Neo-Libertarian Party of Kalistan | To | Debating the A New Age For Capitalism |
| Message | We need a little more consensus before we can take that step. However, it IS nice to know that we have a like-minded party fiscally, fiscally and morally. |
| Date | 14:20:05, July 06, 2005 CET | From | Benevolent Totalitarian Party | To | Debating the A New Age For Capitalism |
| Message | People's Front, aren't you supposed to be a communist or something? You voted FOR the original bill to nationalize all industry! Now you're going to vote in the opposite direction? The people don't like flip-floppers... |
| Date | 14:42:32, July 06, 2005 CET | From | Neo-Libertarian Party of Kalistan | To | Debating the A New Age For Capitalism |
| Message | ... I like them better now... |
| Date | 15:51:41, July 06, 2005 CET | From | People's Front of Kalistan | To | Debating the A New Age For Capitalism |
| Message | Na, we still disagree with article 3. |
| Date | 16:17:52, July 06, 2005 CET | From | Neo-Libertarian Party of Kalistan | To | Debating the A New Age For Capitalism |
| Message | That's the BEST YOU CAN GET when it comes to no subsidizing. |
| Date | 16:22:29, July 06, 2005 CET | From | People's Front of Kalistan | To | Debating the A New Age For Capitalism |
| Message | But there is also subsidy in a form in article 1. Subsiding is a waste of money. |
| Date | 16:24:28, July 06, 2005 CET | From | Neo-Libertarian Party of Kalistan | To | Debating the A New Age For Capitalism |
| Message | Article 1 is general decentralization, lets the local government do what it thinks is best, and is non-negotiable. Really, you shouldn't be so overbearing about this. |
| Date | 16:35:06, July 06, 2005 CET | From | People's Front of Kalistan | To | Debating the A New Age For Capitalism |
| Message | Well if that is the case we will thinkg about it. |
| Date | 16:51:31, July 06, 2005 CET | From | Benevolent Totalitarian Party | To | Debating the A New Age For Capitalism |
| Message | You're right, People's Front. Subsidizing IS a waste of money. Why subsidize when you can nationalize? Then instead of SPENDING money on industry, the government will be MAKING money! |
| Date | 16:53:14, July 06, 2005 CET | From | Benevolent Totalitarian Party | To | Debating the A New Age For Capitalism |
| Message | Btw, People's Front, notice you voted FOR the National Industry for National Greatness bill: http://aiglesrv.no-ip.info:8080/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=8645 |
| Date | 17:03:20, July 06, 2005 CET | From | Neo-Libertarian Party of Kalistan | To | Debating the A New Age For Capitalism |
| Message | Stop trying to change their entire party's small vs. large government ideals! You have enough large government people in the government, I have only the CNP and a couple others. |
| Date | 19:36:09, July 06, 2005 CET | From |  Dolgar Libertarian Party | To | Debating the A New Age For Capitalism |
| Message | ... PFK, do you still support capitalism? |
| Date | 19:38:10, July 06, 2005 CET | From | Neo-Libertarian Party of Kalistan | To | Debating the A New Age For Capitalism |
| Message | Who are you? o.o |
| Date | 19:39:44, July 06, 2005 CET | From | Dolgar Libertarian Party | To | Debating the A New Age For Capitalism |
| Message | Another party who has a tendency to evesdrop. |
| Date | 19:41:18, July 06, 2005 CET | From | Neo-Libertarian Party of Kalistan | To | Debating the A New Age For Capitalism |
| Message | That's not netiquette regarding this game... |
| Date | 14:51:50, July 07, 2005 CET | From | Benevolent Totalitarian Party | To | Debating the A New Age For Capitalism |
| Message | Security! Get that spy out of here! |
| Date | 14:53:00, July 07, 2005 CET | From | Benevolent Totalitarian Party | To | Debating the A New Age For Capitalism |
| Message | And I'm not trying to change anything about the PFK. He supported big government last time. YOU're trying to convince him to change his views by voting for capitalism. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 263 | |||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 487 | |||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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