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Bill: Higher Education Tuition Reform
Details
Submitted by[?]: Republican Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2081
Description[?]:
This tuition system in Higher Education is too exensive and need to be changed. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Higher education tuition policy.
Old value:: The government subsidizes tuition only for students from families classified as low-income or poor.
Current: The government subsidizes tuition only for students from families classified as low-income or poor.
Proposed: The government does not subsidize tuition, students must pay for higher education themselves. This does not include scholarship programs.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 18:49:38, July 11, 2005 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the Higher Education Tuition Reform |
Message | We'll vote no on this issue too. |
Date | 17:36:20, July 12, 2005 CET | From | Republican Party | To | Debating the Higher Education Tuition Reform |
Message | RP Some arguments? |
Date | 23:12:28, July 12, 2005 CET | From | Patriot Party | To | Debating the Higher Education Tuition Reform |
Message | We have to oppose as well. Reason being that this will leave the low income people at a disadvantage. |
Date | 00:43:31, July 13, 2005 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the Higher Education Tuition Reform |
Message | Where do the low income families fit into this plan? |
Date | 09:36:47, July 13, 2005 CET | From | Republican Party | To | Debating the Higher Education Tuition Reform |
Message | We think that subsidizes 50% of students classified as low-income or poor is far away from truth. Low income families and poor students find their Tuition in non-profit organisations. |
Date | 15:55:21, July 13, 2005 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the Higher Education Tuition Reform |
Message | You just re-enforced why we are voting no on this issue. |
Date | 22:31:31, July 14, 2005 CET | From | Republican Party | To | Debating the Higher Education Tuition Reform |
Message | Government isn't good manager. If you want to subsidize students do it in fundation. |
Date | 18:15:40, July 15, 2005 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the Higher Education Tuition Reform |
Message | That's all well in good but what if the foundation goes under? |
Date | 22:36:01, July 15, 2005 CET | From | Republican Party | To | Debating the Higher Education Tuition Reform |
Message | It's a problem of this fundation. It's because peoples don't want to support this fundation. So why didn't you support this fundation? a) It's goal are against your b) It's do it's job not so good. c) is there any other option? Ad. a But if we force peoples to pay taxes for tuition there will be money for this goal. Yes, but we belive that taking peoples money and distribute them is the worst ever system of distribution. And If there don't wan't to subsidize this tuition why force them? Ad. b It's even better. System have self control. Every subsidize/distribution have it's cost. Peoples saw that this fundation take too much for them selfs for this distribution and too little for students so they decide to go to other fundation. And what about control system in national distribution? You do something in 3rd sector? You send money for Watchdogs? You checking where are goind money that was taken away from you? What do you do about it? Socialists - there are to posibilitis: a) You have never ask your self this kind of question. Never heard how fundation works. b) You know exactly how this national subsidizes tuition systems works but you 1o work for them 2o you make a money from them 3o you talking this thing and making political influence on peoples unawareness, ignorance? So what the answers will be? |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||||
yes |
Total Seats: 61 | |||||
no |
Total Seats: 163 | |||||
abstain | Total Seats: 75 |
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