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Bill: Smoking Reform in Tukarali
Details
Submitted by[?]: 3wide.com Antiparticulates
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2343
Description[?]:
| This is a re-proposal of a bill that was shot down by the dominant Greenish Liberal Democratic Socialists during the previous Council. We are appealing to the response of the One Nation Conservative party who abstained during the previous voting process. Tukarali is in need of reform, and after many years of absence, the Antiparticulates have risen again to help lead the new Tukarali into the future. Smoking is a deadly addiction, and it is the responsibility of the government to prohibit our citizens from having the ability to participate in an activity that will directly harm their health and well being. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards smoking.
Old value:: Smoking is only allowed in private homes and clubs.
Current: Smoking is legal everywhere, at the discretion of the property owner. However, service/employer property owners that allow smoking must provide a separate non-smoking section.
Proposed: Smoking is prohibited.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:04:19, January 11, 2007 CET | From | Greenish Liberal Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the Smoking Reform in Tukarali |
| Message | We recognise the unhealthyness of smoking, it is indeed a deadly addiction. We do try to minimise the danger of second-hand smoke by only allowing it in private homes and clubs. We do not consider it the job of the government to determine wether one can smoke in your own house or not, that's up to the owner. We're wiling to negotiate on several options, but totally forbidding it is taking it a bit too far. |
| Date | 20:41:24, January 11, 2007 CET | From | 3wide.com Antiparticulates | To | Debating the Smoking Reform in Tukarali |
| Message | The only way to keep our own citizens from dying as a result of smoking is to keep the cigarettes out of their hands. So long as some form of smoking is legal, the sale of cigarettes will continue on a large scale. If smoking was illegal, then we would hand in hand be able to prohibit the sale of cigarettes as well. |
| Date | 20:53:28, January 11, 2007 CET | From | Greenish Liberal Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the Smoking Reform in Tukarali |
| Message | Gee, you think making it illegal will make people stop smoking, how naive. It's been tried before, prohibition doesn't work. By the way, how would you ever punish people if they're smoking a sigaret in their own house? Barge in and fine them, of letting them all do some jail time? We do not consider this a good solution, it is not effective. The police has more important stuff to attend to. |
| Date | 23:11:50, January 11, 2007 CET | From | Liberal Tukarali Democratic Party | To | Debating the Smoking Reform in Tukarali |
| Message | Be side if cigartees were illegal they would be smuggled from forgien countries and pose an even greatter health risk to our peolpe |
| Date | 03:35:04, January 12, 2007 CET | From | 3wide.com Antiparticulates | To | Debating the Smoking Reform in Tukarali |
| Message | "Gee, you think making it illegal will make people stop smoking, how naive. It's been tried before, prohibition doesn't work." No, but far less people will do it then would do it when they can openly buy cigarettes at any gas station. |
| Date | 09:51:53, January 12, 2007 CET | From | Mostly Liberal Party | To | Debating the Smoking Reform in Tukarali |
| Message | The government should not interfere in the private life of it's citizens. If "far less people will do it" if you make it illegal then you're not making a difference. Our citizens will always smoke, regardless of the law, and are therefore likely to develop the health complications associated with it. If you make cannabis illegal there will still be those who grow, produce and sell. The same goes for tobacco. By making cigarettes illegal we will simply drive production underground where it will be readily available to all and sundry. This legislation will make no difference. |
| Date | 18:27:28, January 12, 2007 CET | From | 3wide.com Antiparticulates | To | Debating the Smoking Reform in Tukarali |
| Message | If far less people will do it, then you are making a difference, because far less people will die as a result. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 104 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 236 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 155 |
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