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Bill: Labor, Pension and Health Reform Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Catholic Workers Union
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2352
Description[?]:
| A comprehensive attempt at creating a fair and just Telamon, and a cooperative Commonwealth. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Health care policy.
Old value:: There is a public health care system, but private clinics are allowed.
Current: Health care is entirely public and free; private clinics are banned.
Proposed: There is a free public health care system and a small number of private clinics, which are heavily regulated to ensure they treat their patients well and provide good care.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.
Old value:: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government. However, the provision of this is not to exceed a certian period of time.
Current: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.
Proposed: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on minimum wage regulation.
Old value:: There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a full time worker on it can support a family of four without falling under the poverty line.
Current: There shall be a minimum wage at a level considered a "living wage," well above the poverty line for a full time worker.
Proposed: There shall be a minimum wage at a level considered a "living wage," well above the poverty line for a full time worker.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system.
Old value:: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Current: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Proposed: The state operates a compulsory, public pension system.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The professional retirement age.
Old value:: 75
Current: 66
Proposed: 64
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:50:29, January 26, 2007 CET | From | Popular Socialist Front | To | Debating the Labor, Pension and Health Reform Act |
| Message | Yep |
| Date | 07:13:52, January 27, 2007 CET | From | National Fasco-Communist Order | To | Debating the Labor, Pension and Health Reform Act |
| Message | We're not so sure on Article 2... remove it and you'd have our full support. |
| Date | 17:11:09, January 27, 2007 CET | From | Catholic Workers Union | To | Debating the Labor, Pension and Health Reform Act |
| Message | Could we moderate it a bit... Instead of making it a reasonable wage, make it a very basic one? Politics is the art of compromise after all. |
| Date | 07:56:56, January 28, 2007 CET | From | National Fasco-Communist Order | To | Debating the Labor, Pension and Health Reform Act |
| Message | Well it's not the amount we object too, it's the fact that it's permanent. We think people should support themselves economically and we're OK with helping them out for a while but not making them permanent leechers. |
| Date | 00:37:18, January 29, 2007 CET | From | Catholic Workers Union | To | Debating the Labor, Pension and Health Reform Act |
| Message | We have to disagree. No one should be compelled to work, because to do so would be slavery. An unregulated free market compels individuals to work lest they be deprived of essential substinence goods. This bill would in part remove that compulsion, and if we significantly moderated the level of assistance being provided to all individuals, there would be little to no incentive for able adults to not work to achieve a higher living standard. A few individuals would accept the reduced living standard even though they are completely capable of working, but the largest group to benefit from this would be those unable to work for numerous health reasons. Again, we're willing to compromise on this matter, but you've got to meet us half way. |
| Date | 04:55:22, January 29, 2007 CET | From | National Fasco-Communist Order | To | Debating the Labor, Pension and Health Reform Act |
| Message | Part of being a responsible citizen is contributing to society. You're wanting to create a Commonwealth where people can just sit around because they feel like being lazy. We could never support such a thing. |
| Date | 17:43:25, January 29, 2007 CET | From | Popular Socialist Front | To | Debating the Labor, Pension and Health Reform Act |
| Message | Well, I'll have to agree with the MDFP here; if people don't want to work, they don't have to. But if they want to get a decent wage then they're going to have to work. And the state will have to intervene to secure that decent wage. |
| Date | 00:41:46, January 30, 2007 CET | From | Catholic Workers Union | To | Debating the Labor, Pension and Health Reform Act |
| Message | No MLP, that's just wrong. Most of those basic wages will go to those people who can't work: the sick, the mentally infirm, mothers. Some will by course go to those who won't work. This keeps them sustained at the very least. At this point I think we ought to move ahead with this regardless. |
| Date | 01:13:33, January 30, 2007 CET | From | National Fasco-Communist Order | To | Debating the Labor, Pension and Health Reform Act |
| Message | And we have no problem with providing a wage for that, something which our proposal would do. |
| Date | 22:18:27, January 30, 2007 CET | From | Catholic Workers Union | To | Debating the Labor, Pension and Health Reform Act |
| Message | I haven't seen your proposal. |
| Date | 23:30:53, January 30, 2007 CET | From | National Fasco-Communist Order | To | Debating the Labor, Pension and Health Reform Act |
| Message | Our proposal is to keep the current one, which we are demonstrating by voting no. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 163 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 203 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 235 |
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