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Bill: The NCP's Abolition of Identity Cards Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: National Conservative Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: September 2356

Description[?]:

The NCP does not believe the government should issue identity cards for three reasons:
1) ID cards are voluntary. Therefore there is no requirement for the government to produce them. Citizens wishing to prove their identity should use driving licenses or passports.
2) Making ID cards mandatory would be a gross violation of civil liberties.
3) The cost of producing ID cards and maintaining the bureaucracy necessary for running of the ID card system and database is an unnecessary waste of taxpayer's money.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date22:07:53, February 05, 2007 CET
FromSocialist Workers Union
ToDebating the The NCP's Abolition of Identity Cards Act
MessageThe ID cards act as official ID for people who do not drive or have a passport so we would prefer to keep them, in fact we may propose that ID cards are used by everyone and have them double up as a driving licence.

Date00:19:46, February 06, 2007 CET
FromNational Conservative Party
ToDebating the The NCP's Abolition of Identity Cards Act
MessagePassports act as official ID. If a person can get an ID card why can't they get a passport? Why have a duplicate system?

Date02:48:23, February 06, 2007 CET
FromIqembu Sokusebenzisana Yeningi
ToDebating the The NCP's Abolition of Identity Cards Act
MessageThe NCP's comment regarding passports has made us at least consider this bill, but many Ikradonians may not be able to afford the cost of a passport. Others might have no wish to travel abroad, but need ID for their daily life. Should they need to be processed for a passport, too?

Date19:45:47, February 06, 2007 CET
FromNational Conservative Party
ToDebating the The NCP's Abolition of Identity Cards Act
MessageThe NCP is confused by FIND's comment. If a person is too poor to afford a passport, which the NCP doubts, then how do they afford an ID card? If the government is providing free ID cards then why can't it provide free passports instead?

The NCP would propose a subsided passport system. Citizens pay a percentage of the cost of their first passport and then the full cost of any replacement passports.

Date19:50:29, February 06, 2007 CET
FromIqembu Sokusebenzisana Yeningi
ToDebating the The NCP's Abolition of Identity Cards Act
MessageTo clarify, the cost of a passport incudes the cost of a background check to ensure the person is allowed to travel. The cost of an ID card includes only the cost of checking someone's identification documents.

Date01:19:07, February 07, 2007 CET
FromIqembu Sokusebenzisana Yeningi
ToDebating the The NCP's Abolition of Identity Cards Act
MessageVoting against, provisionally. We will try to keep tabs on the debate though and may decide to switch.

Date01:36:09, February 07, 2007 CET
FromNew Democratic Party
ToDebating the The NCP's Abolition of Identity Cards Act
MessageQuite simply, carrying a thick booklet around is not so practical for everyday use, and can't possibly expect that everyone has a driving licence. There has to be a simple ID card which everyone can have access to.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 119

no
      

Total Seats: 480

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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