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Bill: Child Welfare Act (2417)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Beluzian Workers Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2419
Description[?]:
| An Act to provide the child tax benefit only to families in need |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding child benefit.
Old value:: The state guarantees child benefit to all families.
Current: The state guarantees child benefit to both low-income families and large families.
Proposed: The state guarantees child benefit to families classified as low-income or poor.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 09:48:43, June 22, 2007 CET | From | The Rabble | To | Debating the Child Welfare Act (2417) |
| Message | no way |
| Date | 09:49:24, June 22, 2007 CET | From | The Rabble | To | Debating the Child Welfare Act (2417) |
| Message | Means testing is an indignity we refuse to allow |
| Date | 11:29:54, June 22, 2007 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Child Welfare Act (2417) |
| Message | We must encourage our wealthiest citizens to breed! |
| Date | 16:52:25, June 22, 2007 CET | From | Beluzian Workers Party | To | Debating the Child Welfare Act (2417) |
| Message | Means testing? A simple maximum income level would be sufficient, since all Beluzians already have to declare the income for taxation purposes. How is means testing an indignity? |
| Date | 18:01:30, June 22, 2007 CET | From | The Rabble | To | Debating the Child Welfare Act (2417) |
| Message | Well if you've got the means you probably wouldn't understand |
| Date | 20:05:19, June 22, 2007 CET | From | Beluzian Workers Party | To | Debating the Child Welfare Act (2417) |
| Message | No, it just means you can't explain it (which means you probably don't understand it either). |
| Date | 17:21:29, June 24, 2007 CET | From | The Rabble | To | Debating the Child Welfare Act (2417) |
| Message | Research shows that when benefits are means tested there is significantly lower take up amongst those in poverty than when the benefits are univeral, this is generally attributed to working class folks being too proud to accept 'handouts', however if everyone gets it the situation is different. Another point is that means testing requires more bureucracy than universal benefits, thus leading to a higher percentage of the budget earmarked for benefits going into adminstration rather than people's pockets. |
| Date | 20:20:39, June 24, 2007 CET | From | Constitutional Monarchy Party | To | Debating the Child Welfare Act (2417) |
| Message | I dont like handouts... just a personal thing. |
| Date | 16:38:20, June 25, 2007 CET | From | Beluzian Workers Party | To | Debating the Child Welfare Act (2417) |
| Message | Well, no means testing going on here. It simply based on reported income. If you don't earn about a certain amount per year, you get the tax credit on your income tax return. No indignities... |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 282 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 468 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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