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Bill: Culture Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: The Liberty Organization
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2427
Description[?]:
| The government will not decide what is and is not worth saving for future generations. Let the people organize outside of the governmental sphere to accomplish this. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change National, cultural and historic sites and monuments.
Old value:: The state actively protects scenery, localities, cultural, and historical sites; it maintains an agency to preserve them untouched if public interest so requires.
Current: The state actively protects scenery, localities, cultural, and historical sites; it maintains an agency to preserve them untouched if public interest so requires.
Proposed: The state does not undertake any action towards the protection of cultural and historical heritage.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:46:07, July 09, 2007 CET | From |  Democratic Industrialists | To | Debating the Culture Bill |
| Message | "We do not support. If there is one thing as important as private industry, it is the general culture of Keymon." --Lisa Goldwater |
| Date | 17:14:42, July 09, 2007 CET | From | Christian Democrats | To | Debating the Culture Bill |
| Message | "The state has an obligation here. Our culture and history define us, and we should not allow the concerns of the day, driven as they are by the almighty Keymon dollar, to redefine our past with bulldozers and pavement." -- Lain Keymon |
| Date | 19:20:37, July 09, 2007 CET | From | The Liberty Organization | To | Debating the Culture Bill |
| Message | "And only government is capable of reasoned foresight? What makes a government body better able to decide what is worth preserving than a private organization. These organizations may or may not be run for profit, but they will be a truer representation of the will of the people to protect that which has come before." Seamus McCann |
| Date | 23:01:56, July 09, 2007 CET | From | Christian Democrats | To | Debating the Culture Bill |
| Message | "It may be the will of the people to bulldoze an ancient monument, especially if the monument is not protected and if a multi-billion-dollar corporation needs the land on which it stands. Should we permit that? Furthermore, private organizations operating purely on a profit and donation basis invariably run short and are incapable of winning the costly legal battles to protect their interests when facing corporate entities with deeper pockets. This is a case in which the public sector can handle the issue while the private sector cannot." -- Lain Keymon |
| Date | 01:37:14, July 10, 2007 CET | From | The Liberty Organization | To | Debating the Culture Bill |
| Message | "Why are governmental actions always presumed divinely inspired, while those actions of other collectives infernally so? Regarding your hypothetical question, there is only one answer. Yes, we would allow the monument to be sacrificied if that is the will of the people. What is government for if not making good the popular will? What process do the Christian Democrats use to determine when their pesky consistuents are worth listening too and when they should be ignored? "It is true that there will be times when a conflict exists over land which may provide profit through use though it may destory a bit of our heritage. In these cases the outcome should be decided by contributions of resources from indivdiuals, not arbitrary governmental power. A power which the Christian Democrats have already shown does not have to agree with popular sentiment, but the whim of the powers that be. If your problem instead is with the justice system that should be resolved in another bill, we believe that in Keymon all people are equally able to achieve a just decision reagrdless of their wealth. " WIll Altos |
| Date | 06:51:51, July 10, 2007 CET | From | Christian Democrats | To | Debating the Culture Bill |
| Message | "Some things are beyond popular will. It may be the popular will, for example, of 60% of Keymonians that a certain individual should be murdered - and yet we have laws forbidding murder, even if a majority of the people want to murder someone. Similarly, it may be the popular will that the ancient home of Bryce Leigh I should be bulldozed to build a strip mall, but there may be a law - there currently is - that prevents that will from becoming reality. That is how mob rule is prevented, and how the minority is protected from the tyranny of the majority." -- Lain Keymon |
| Date | 10:35:32, July 10, 2007 CET | From | Liberum Party | To | Debating the Culture Bill |
| Message | "Opposed." --Grenville Anderson |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 63 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 53 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 4 |
| Random fact: Once approved, players should copy Cultural Protocols into a bill in the debate section of their nation page, under the title of "OOC: Cultural Protocols". This bill should include links to the passed Cultural Protocol bill and the Moderation approval. |
| Random quote: "Any system that takes responsibility away from people, dehumanises them." - Author Unknown |