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Bill: Strength in Unity
Details
Submitted by[?]: Union Hosienne-Démocrate (UHD)
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2435
Description[?]:
| It has come to the attention of the Party that our current military stance, while adequate, can be changed with the adoption of better options that present to Terra the nature and feelings of the people of the Confederation. Given the predisposition of the people towards isolationism (55%), we of the DLP feel that the national intelligence policy should concentrate solely on the protection of ourselves directly. We propose that the intelligence service not bow to the pressure of an aggressor by imposing our wills upon other nations. What better way for the young people of the Confederation, to truly foster unity and strength (as our motto goes) than for them to serve their nation in some capacity or another. This not only helps serve the nation and strengthens it, this act would allow for future leaders to gain experience while serving others. We propose that the young of the nation, upon completion of school, engage in mandatory service to the nation either through the military or another government sponsored and sanctioned activity. To truly unify the nation both physically and spiritually, women must be given the opportunity to serve the nation alongside men in in complete equality. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Nation's policy with regards to an intelligence agency.
Old value:: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Current: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Proposed: The nation has an intelligence agency, but it is limited to counter-intelligence and surveillance of other countries.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: All adults upon completion of schooling can be required in times of war to serve a term in the military.
Current: All adults upon completion of schooling can be required in times of war to serve a term in the military.
Proposed: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Women in the military.
Old value:: Women serve in segregated units.
Current: Women serve alongside men.
Proposed: Women serve alongside men.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:53:29, July 22, 2007 CET | From | Union Pour une Nation Homosexuelle | To | Debating the Strength in Unity |
| Message | Although we have no objection to article 3, the others are objectinable, and as such we would vote against. but we are likley to support the third article proposed alone |
| Date | 03:28:33, July 23, 2007 CET | From | Partie Patriotique de Kanjor | To | Debating the Strength in Unity |
| Message | We are against all of these. Our intelligence service, while it does not routinely operate in other countries should have the capacity to do so if need arises. We see no need for routine conscription in times of peace |
| Date | 03:36:49, July 23, 2007 CET | From | Partie Patriotique de Kanjor | To | Debating the Strength in Unity |
| Message | As for article 3 the current policy does enable women to serve the nation in complete equality as men also serve in segregated units. |
| Date | 05:33:59, July 23, 2007 CET | From | Union Hosienne-Démocrate (UHD) | To | Debating the Strength in Unity |
| Message | Why would our intelligence agency need to operate within another soverign nation? The country still apparently has a nuclear deterent, much to our dismay, but yet needs to enter another country when threatened? I fail to see the point. Are we to be an oppressor nation? Conjolling others to our will? Or are we to be a nation that leads by example? For what reason would the Confederation have to meddle in the internal affairs of another???? An equality of oppression? We believe women should be able to serve in their units right alongside men in any capacity. Why waste time and energy segregating units and ensuring their separation? Men and women work alongside eachother in the workspace, but not in the army? The armed forces are not a college dormitory! As for the National Service proposal; the DLP feels it is imperative for the young to participate in government. This builds a unified nation through common experience, leadership opportunities and a sort of on-the-job training. For those who do not wish to engage in military activities, there are other civilian opportunities available to them. |
| Date | 04:44:23, July 25, 2007 CET | From | Nouveau Jacobins | To | Debating the Strength in Unity |
| Message | Take out 1 and 2, and we'll support |
| Date | 05:18:33, July 25, 2007 CET | From | Union Hosienne-Démocrate (UHD) | To | Debating the Strength in Unity |
| Message | Article 2 is strongly supported by the DLP. The Party strongly supports and respects the PDC but we will have to maintain these stances. The impotence we have in government is not lost on us but we must insist on keeping our support for the bill regardless of its defeat. |
| Date | 12:07:36, July 26, 2007 CET | From | Union Pour une Nation Homosexuelle | To | Debating the Strength in Unity |
| Message | There should be no mandatory national service; period |
| Date | 18:54:57, July 27, 2007 CET | From | Union Hosienne-Démocrate (UHD) | To | Debating the Strength in Unity |
| Message | Why not? |
| Date | 19:24:03, July 27, 2007 CET | From | Union Hosienne-Démocrate (UHD) | To | Debating the Strength in Unity |
| Message | (Oops, the DLP didn't quite mean to send this to vote yet, but since it is out there, I guess we can all vote on it.) |
| Date | 19:33:47, July 27, 2007 CET | From | Partie Patriotique de Kanjor | To | Debating the Strength in Unity |
| Message | In spite of grave misgivings over article 3, we will support. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 269 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 106 |
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