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Bill: A New Dawn Repealment Bill

Details

Submitted by[?]: Civil Liberty Persecution Complex Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill proposes the withdrawal from a treaty. It will require half of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: January 2448

Description[?]:

For the Glory of the Civil Liberty!

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date22:14:09, August 23, 2007 CET
From Ma'avak
ToDebating the A New Dawn Repealment Bill
Message"If this bill were to pass known rapists and murderers could set up shop her and start whore houses on every street corner, oh and the whores could have sex with the brothers because incest would be legal. Additionally companies could turn billboards into porn whilst at the same time spitting on our national flag and burning down our synagogues! This is not far fetched every single thing we have said would be possible if this bill were to pass. If they really believe in this bill then the Persecution Complex Party want nothing more than the eradication of moral life, the descent into a nationwide smut epidemic and the eventual collapse of the Beiteynuese state."

Date23:26:50, August 23, 2007 CET
FromModerate Voice of Reason Party
ToDebating the A New Dawn Repealment Bill
MessageThe MVR puts enough trust in the people of Beiteynu to think that the fevered nightmarish vision of the future that The Aymam submits will bot come to pass.

However, we object to article 8 & 17 which we think in both instances go too far.

Identity cards are a practical means for citizens to identify themselves in many daily situations, such as when purchasing items which are prohibited for children, and countless other arenas where identification is needed to access government and other services. Also, having a proper means of identification is a necessity when it comes to traveling abroad.

As for article 17, although we believe in a freer exchange of commerce and culture than what is transpiring in our present day, we would think that some sort of screening process should remain to ensure national safety.

Furthermore, we are concerned with the implications article 16. Our stance is that illegal immigrants should be dealt with on the local government level, so that each region can regulate itself according to its needs. Although, if the CLPC can give us an adequate formulation and explanation of it's considerations on that matter we might be swayed by a compelling argument.

So, as it stand we can not vote for this bill until some concessions are given.

Date07:25:28, August 24, 2007 CET
FromCivil Liberty Persecution Complex Party
ToDebating the A New Dawn Repealment Bill
MessageThe reason for article sixteen is that given the nature of the country as a whole "illegal" aliens can be construed to be effectively anyone that does not follow Judaism. This goes hand in hand with article article seventeen to create a more free nation that, while the Judaism front still controls a large part of it, is welcome to progression even now.

In regards to identity cards they are nothing more than an invasion of privacy as they list a persons beliefs, origins and various other facts which, again considering the Judaist nature of the nation, means that non-Judaism followers are likely to be shunned, prejudiced or segregated for reasons that would not be a real issue without the use of identity cards.

Date09:39:02, August 24, 2007 CET
FromModerate Voice of Reason Party
ToDebating the A New Dawn Repealment Bill
MessageWe in the MVR think that you've already covered the potential for racial and religious discrimination in article 10. And if your goal is to ensure a free and open society The CLPC would be better served removing the government sponsored gated communities rather than opening our borders wide open to a population of people who will live and work outside our system. These illegals that surely can be wantonly exploited by those who lack moral scruples, if we lack the proper tools and the ability to perform some sort of control over the situation.

Date13:07:29, August 24, 2007 CET
From Ma'avak
ToDebating the A New Dawn Repealment Bill
MessageThe MVR make a good point that complete invalidates that regarding ID cards of the Persecuters Party. How can ID cards be used to discrimintate against non-Jews if the government has no list of who is a Jew therefore no way to put this information on the ID cards?

Date19:19:12, August 24, 2007 CET
FromAm Echad, Pays Libre
ToDebating the A New Dawn Repealment Bill
Messagemany of these articles are immoral!

Date09:50:20, August 25, 2007 CET
FromCivil Liberty Persecution Complex Party
ToDebating the A New Dawn Repealment Bill
MessageAs a compromise for the MVR we have removed article 17 and inserted a gated community proposal.

Date11:17:40, August 25, 2007 CET
FromHaLeumit Tikvah
ToDebating the A New Dawn Repealment Bill
MessageHow can any party really support article 18? Babies can survive being born in the third trimester, so under this law it would be legal to kill babies older than ones already born.

Date17:36:46, August 27, 2007 CET
FromAm Echad, Pays Libre
ToDebating the A New Dawn Repealment Bill
MessageThis is bad for our nation!

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
    

Total Seats: 61

no
   

Total Seats: 39

abstain
  

Total Seats: 0


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