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Bill: Affirmative Action? No way!
Details
Submitted by[?]: Official Dragon Bacon-Eaters' Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2100
Description[?]:
| A bill to make "positive discrimination" illegal. We actually have a good reason for it this time and will post it in the debate when we're not tired. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Positive discrimination.
Old value:: The government does not regulate hiring policies.
Current: The government encourages positive discrimination and enforces it for government hiring.
Proposed: No form of positive discrimination is permitted.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:45:14, August 17, 2005 CET | From | Social-Liberal Party | To | Debating the Affirmative Action? No way! |
| Message | A reason eh? We will oppose this bill. |
| Date | 09:37:28, August 18, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Affirmative Action? No way! |
| Message | I am open to this bill when the party whom proposed it gets up to debate it. |
| Date | 17:53:03, August 18, 2005 CET | From | Partisans And Artisans League | To | Debating the Affirmative Action? No way! |
| Message | I will support |
| Date | 01:35:56, August 19, 2005 CET | From | Neo-Marxist revolutionary Party | To | Debating the Affirmative Action? No way! |
| Message | ODBEP.... ((OOC: You have no idea how much I want to say Oedipuis [sp] when writing that. :D)) can you please give an explanation? |
| Date | 16:54:54, August 20, 2005 CET | From | Partisans And Artisans League | To | Debating the Affirmative Action? No way! |
| Message | Positive discrimination is discrimination and is therefore wrong. |
| Date | 09:34:36, August 21, 2005 CET | From | Official Dragon Bacon-Eaters' Party | To | Debating the Affirmative Action? No way! |
| Message | Bleh, sorry. I've been a bit busy lately. I'll get on it first thing tomorrow morning. |
| Date | 02:58:57, August 22, 2005 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Affirmative Action? No way! |
| Message | Govt. sponsored racism is an anti-Populist policy, discriminating as it does against the People. |
| Date | 09:04:22, August 22, 2005 CET | From | Official Dragon Bacon-Eaters' Party | To | Debating the Affirmative Action? No way! |
| Message | Anyway, affirmative action is racism not only against the majority, but the group that it targets as well. To the majority? Hey, they may be the better worker and are losing out on the job due to an idiotic governmental program. To the minorities? It's saying, "Hey, I'm going to help you out because you can't get a job on your own merits." There. It's a bit brief, but I'm running short on time. |
| Date | 13:56:24, August 22, 2005 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Affirmative Action? No way! |
| Message | exactly, affirmative action says minorities are too lazy and stupid to succeed without help. Typical leftist paternalism |
| Date | 17:03:46, August 22, 2005 CET | From | Social-Liberal Party | To | Debating the Affirmative Action? No way! |
| Message | Isn't it equally paternalistic to *ban* positive discrimination? Why do right-wing parties feel that it is a duty of the government to *ensure* that minorities do not get jobs? |
| Date | 18:20:42, August 22, 2005 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Affirmative Action? No way! |
| Message | Nobody is proposing a law that minorities be kept out of jobs. If they can spare a minute from their buzy schedule of hookah huffing and hippity-hop dancing to ring a few doorbells, I think they'll quickly find themselves busy cleaning toilets and washing linens |
| Date | 20:15:23, August 22, 2005 CET | From | Social-Liberal Party | To | Debating the Affirmative Action? No way! |
| Message | Frankly, implying that minorities are only good for cleaning jobs is insulting to these hard-working Beluzians. However, even if we may disagree, why institutte a ban on positive discrimination? Why not simply make it so that the government does not regulate hiring policies? The current proposal is positive discrimination for majorities! |
| Date | 01:43:53, August 23, 2005 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Affirmative Action? No way! |
| Message | That makes no sense whatsoever. Set down your dialetical materialism textbook for a minute, and think straight for once in your life: positive, negative, quota's, call it what you will, discrimination is discrimination ... |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 222 | ||||||
| no | Total Seats: 43 | ||||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 35 |
| Random fact: In cases where a party has no seat, the default presumption should be that the party is able to contribute to debates in the legislature due to one of its members winning a seat at a by-election. However, players may collectively improvise arrangements of their own to provide a satisfying explanation for how parties with no seats in the legislature can speak and vote there. |
| Random quote: "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson |